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Old 04-25-2012, 04:21 PM
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This car has a 1 owner history from ny to fl. I got the car after it rear ended a volvo. The car had doc. 51000 miles with car show ribbons and all . I bought it just for the int. and side pipes. But fell in love with the car and revived it into a sweet driver. My question is has any one ever seen a 69 LT1 before? The car has a solid lift LT1 350 with all the matching #'s also was a fac side pipe car 4spd with a L88 465:1 FC 69 rear end!!! I would like any input about what anyone mite know about this car thanks scott in fl.
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Never say never, but no factory '69 should have come with an LT-1 engine.

The block could have been restamped to look original or it's possible it could have been a factory test car that was sold, though it's much less likely than an engine restamp.

The same goes for an L88 rear end...someone swapped it in more likely than not. In over forty years there's no real way of telling what's original and what's not anymore without verifiable documentation.
Old 04-25-2012, 05:00 PM
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Hi Scott,
I also believe that someone created an engine, side-pipe, rear end, combination, that they wished had been available from St. Louis in 1969.
I'm curious what the documentation is?
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What makes you sure that it's an LT1? What numbers match what?
Old 04-25-2012, 05:13 PM
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I have a 69 LT-1 but it is an over the counter short block assembly. Anybody could stamp a vin and engine code on the pad as the others have said, just like anybody could put in a different rear.
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According to the "1969 Stingray Guidebook" by Rick Bizzoco:

Chevrolet produced one LT1 in 1969 that included the LT1 hood, LT1 strip, Dzus fasteners and Americal Mags with race tires. This car was discussed in an article in Sports Car Graphic... The Chevrolet built LT1 had the N14 side exhaust option. This car was used in the press review of the 1970 Chevrolet models.
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Two known documented LT1's were, however, produced in 1969. The second was dealer-prepared and sold by Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA. Bob Wingate of Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA assisted Jeff Butler with the purchase of this LT1; it was offered under Warranty. When the car came through it lacked the LT1 hood and distinctive striping, having instead the standard 350cu. in. hood.
So apparently there was one factory built 69 LT1 (not quite stock since it had the Dzus fasteners and the American Mags with race tires), and one dealer prepped (Clippinger Chevrolet) LT1.

There's a picture of the factory LT1 in his book on page 91 if anyone would like to see it.

By the way, I hope I don't get in Dutch with the publisher for quoting the book!! No part of the book is to be reproduced unless making short quotes for a review, so in that vein, I'd like to review this book...

Considering it was written in 1994, it's a little dated. I found it to be a pretty good reference with a few inconsistancies and flaws, but overall, something anyone with a 69 Vette should have. 68 and 70+ owners might also find it useful.


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Hi Ed,
I agree with your thoughts about the "69 STINGRAY GUIDBOOK".
It's really one of the most useful books for anyone interested in original 68-72 cars.
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Originally Posted by Roughrider
Never say never, but no factory '69 should have come with an LT-1 engine.

The block could have been restamped to look original or it's possible it could have been a factory test car that was sold, though it's much less likely than an engine restamp.

The same goes for an L88 rear end...someone swapped it in more likely than not. In over forty years there's no real way of telling what's original and what's not anymore without verifiable documentation.
If the # stamp on the block is a fake they did a great job. I have been looking threw thousands of pic's i have on this pc and cant find the before wreck photos that he gave me. The guy i got it from bought it off the show room floor and still had no clue where the oil went. His son new more about the car than he did but he was also the one that wrecked it. All he could show was his ribbons he won for showing the car. I was more into getting it loaded without damaging the side pipe covers and never got most of the real hard info. I do all my own work and have owned 15 c3's and 1 mid year i have worked on vettes for about 20 years now and still have never seen one like it. I have completely frame off over a dozen c3's and pulled over 50 rear ends and i can say this car was all original and had never been apart before by anyone. And was very consistent with a very well kept 51000 mile garaged car. Is there a site to search vin# to be sure before i sell this L88 FC rear end and should have kept it for value reasons.
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Originally Posted by scottsinfl
If the # stamp on the block is a fake they did a great job.
So let's see the pics.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
So let's see the pics.
Im trying, I see it every time im looking threw my pictures for other pic's. Go figure when i look for it i cant find it
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I didn't know that the LT-1 engine...with Holley carb, etc....would fit under a stock SB Corvette hood.
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
I didn't know that the LT-1 engine...with Holley carb, etc....would fit under a stock SB Corvette hood.
Interesting isn't it?
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Originally Posted by Ironcross
Interesting isn't it?
Its not a stock hood it is a LT1 hood with all the LT1 stripes that is whats strange about the car it has all the markings of an LT1 but its a 69.
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Hi Ed,
I agree with your thoughts about the "69 STINGRAY GUIDBOOK".
It's really one of the most useful books for anyone interested in original 68-72 cars.
Regards,
Alan
Yeah, the only real issue I have with the book is that most of the pictures are way too small to discern any real details. It would have also helped if the pictures were in color, but both of these ideas would have made the book HUGE! As it is, it's just over 200 pages. If the pictures were larger (like one picture per page), the book would be several hundred pages! And of course, adding color would have made the price outrageous. As it is, the book is currently around $80.00, so I'm sure color would have made it 3 or 4 times that.

Its not a stock hood it is a LT1 hood with all the LT1 stripes that is whats strange about the car it has all the markings of an LT1 but its a 69.
Scott, it does sound like someone has created a 69 LT1 clone, but I'll reserve judgement until we can see some close up pictures of the engine pad.

Ed
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Originally Posted by restoman1

Scott, it does sound like someone has created a 69 LT1 clone, but I'll reserve judgement until we can see some close up pictures of the engine pad.

Ed
More than that, casting numbers, dates, etc. of engine, trans, rear, etc.

I have heard lots of tall tales in the past, most do not pan out, but occasionally one does.
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Originally Posted by scottsinfl
...If the # stamp on the block is a fake they did a great job...
You should expect expert work from an accomplished restamper.

...Is there a site to search vin# to be sure before i sell this L88 FC rear end and should have kept it for value reasons...
69 VINs do not contain option information.

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Default Qjet #07029207.

FYI i have a good core Qjet #07029207. I have been told this 0 for left digit designates it's a overcounter/field replacement for a '69 vette but can't verify this - can anyone else. 7029207 is corvette only for '69 and used on the 350/350. Date code is for '68 (25x8) and that's OK. PM me for pix. The core is in good condition but really should be rebuilt before return to service.

Anyone verify this?
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
So let's see the pics.
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/memb...cottsinfl.html my profile page has some photo's that i had fun trying to upload i guess i have to brush up on my forum skill's
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What I always found interesting is that RPO LT-1 is listed in multiple places (right between L-46 and L-36) in the Specifications section of the 1969 owners manual. My car was built in Aug '69 and I do believe its the original manual so that would mean that the LT-1 engine was a reality at the time the owners manuals were printed. I've often wondered if they had intended to include it as an option in '69 but for some reason they weren't ready. Specificaly, the '69 manual specs cooling system capacity, plug type, idle speed, timing specs, & valve clearances for the LT-1.


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