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Old 12-08-2018, 08:14 AM
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I don't think that shaft is copper. I doubt it could even be bronze. The nut gets torqued to over 150 lb-ft that goes on that shaft (this is not the correct number, don't cite it). Is it possible that someone used copper anti-sieze on it? Perhaps before Borgeson rebuilt it? Is it magnetic?

I'm happy with my install. No leaks, so far (knock knock).
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Old 12-08-2018, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bikespace View Post
I don't think that shaft is copper. I doubt it could even be bronze. The nut gets torqued to over 150 lb-ft that goes on that shaft (this is not the correct number, don't cite it). Is it possible that someone used copper anti-sieze on it? Perhaps before Borgeson rebuilt it? Is it magnetic?

I'm happy with my install. No leaks, so far (knock knock).
yeah that's why im kind of fixated on it... it's not a surface coating because it cut with a knife. It's original and ive seen it on other members steering boxes on here as well. Yeah I havn't done the easiest test yet of the magnet... but im still reaaaaaaaaaaaaally curious why there is copper on it... or some kind of alloy
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I pulled the sector shaft out today and found that the o-ring was perfect. but the bore in the box where the o-ring sits has a bad galge in it. as seen in pic. I put a new o-ring on it and cleaned it up good. put it back in car and it still leaked. im sending it back to jegs and they will credit me. I got a new one on the way should get it tomorrow afternoon via ups. and I will get it on the vet Saturday. hope this new one is good. also the o-ring in that kit was way to big ?

I got new box in the mail. I cleared it as some

one suggested and it turned out nice. hope it don't leak like the last one.

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I got the new box in car. and no leaks I drove it a few miles. and from manual to power borgeson box is amazing. anyone thinking about doing the conversion I say do it. I am very happy with the results. and thanks to everyone who helped me. jp
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[QUOTE=Bikespace;1598464079]I don't think that shaft is copper. I doubt it could even be bronze. The nut gets torqued to over 150 lb-ft that goes on that shaft (this is not the correct number, don't cite it). Is it possible that someone used copper anti-sieze on it? Perhaps before Borgeson rebuilt it? Is it magnetic?

Could the shaft be Nibral?
Nibral is an alloy in the marine industry for underwater hardware.
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My horn is not working now that I got the new box installed. the rag joint looks like there is no way for it to ground through the column. isn't that how the horn works is through the column and grounds to the steering box or something ? horn worked before this conversion. thanks jp

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there was a post in another thread, not sure if it was the other forum, that said the original GM rag joint rubber coupling disc was conductive, i.e. impregnated with metal fibers. you might need to run a ground strap (short copper wire with ring lugs both ends) across the rag joint. try just jumpering across the rag joint with alligator clips or something (paper clip) to see if that's the solution. I'm really curious to know.

My horn worked after the Borgeson install (1978), but then again, it's also been posted that you shouldn't use bearings as a conductive path. the "galvanic reaction between dissimilar metals" thing.

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My horn worked after the Borgeson install (1978), but then again, it's also been posted that you shouldn't use bearings as a conductive path. the "galvanic reaction between dissimilar metals" thing.
it also micro-welds the bearings, slowly causes pits in the *****

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yeah, on my list of things to do, next. round up a 3/8" ring lug, and a 5/16" ring lug. crimp, solder, install.either 14ga or 12ga stranded wire, green insulated, black insulation, or bare.

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