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Old 05-12-2013, 03:48 PM
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I was out this morning for a ride with my 3 year old and she says Daddy pass that car. I drop it into 3rd and nail it. At 3800 rpm the car falls on it face. Its a 350 350HP 4speed. The Carb was done my Lars a few years back and has also ran great. I live in Fl and it was pretty hot out and I had a 1/4 tank of gas. I tried a few more times to jump on it and the same thing. Ingition in a Petronix Ignitor II and coil. Timing is set at 34 degrees. Any thoughts?
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When is the last time you cleaned the carb? Could maybe be a plugged airbleed, might be worth trying to spray some carb cleaner down the bleeds.
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Maybe the power valve needs replacing?
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are the secondaries opening?
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secondaries are definatly opening as the car was screaming until it nosed over
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Exhaust backpressure? Could be even as trivial as a blocked air filter.
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Could be 100 things, was this the first time you noticed it, have you nailed the gas recently and it was OK ? Clogged fuel filter comes to mind
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flat tappet? what oil do you use? wiped cam lobe?
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Have nailed it many times and ran fine. Car has about 2000 miles since frame off and everything was replace. Tank, lines ETC. I am going to take it out this week when its not so hot and see if it happens again
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I'd start with ignition, a weak one will run great until you jump on it.
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check the fuel filter
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Originally Posted by htown81vette
Maybe the power valve needs replacing?
OP doesn't say what carb he has, but if stock Q-jet, it does not have a power valve.

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Clogged fuel filter?
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I'm with Mr. Badrat. I'm thinking coil.
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fuel pressure under load?

coil as said

valvesprings possible but unlikely being as its fairly new

Doubt anythings clogged.

usually something real simple
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Also check the S hose from the feed line to the pump. If you have strait fuel line used it could be crimped. Get a S hose if the hose is crimped.
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Originally Posted by Tecdiverfl
I was out this morning for a ride with my 3 year old and she says Daddy pass that car. I drop it into 3rd and nail it. At 3800 rpm the car falls on it face. Its a 350 350HP 4speed. The Carb was done my Lars a few years back and has also ran great. I live in Fl and it was pretty hot out and I had a 1/4 tank of gas. I tried a few more times to jump on it and the same thing. Ingition in a Petronix Ignitor II and coil. Timing is set at 34 degrees. Any thoughts?
Not mean to hijack the thread but is okay for a 3 year old to be in a 2 seater in your state? I would love to take my 3 year old daughter for a spin in my vette.

** checked local laws on child restraint **

Didn't know law changed but it says for two seater, I'll have to use the "rear facing" method on the front seat (that's no fun).

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Old 05-13-2013, 02:49 PM
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I recall that both my kids were out of the rear-facing 5-point harness seats sometime during their 2's. Their feet started hitting the seatback, so we turned it around and got them 5-point harness front-facing seats.

I have to admit, putting that type of seat in the 'Vette would be a PITA. To make it easier, perhaps you could put a LATCH point somewhere in the luggage area...I'm sure the NCRS would understand...
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Originally Posted by PeteZO6
OP doesn't say what carb he has, but if stock Q-jet, it does not have a power valve.

Pete
If he has a Q-jet he does have an enrichment valve which performs the same function as the Holley power valve. And it's very possible the valve is sticking. This valve is essentially a spring loaded piston that is pulled down by manifold vacuum. When vacuum drops as the throttle opens the valve pops up and raises the main metering rods to allow more fuel flow. I do agree that it sounds like a fuel starvation issue or secondaries/air door not opening properly. The hazards of having a car that isn't driven regularly.
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I strap her in her car seat and my neighbor is a sherif
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...-co-pilot.html

What is the best way to check the enrichment valve?


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