0Rodney@ridetech

Looks good! Definitely easier to do when doing the box, but not terrible to put it on after.

spedaleden

Rodney,

I am going to change my upper control arms first then lowers with coil overs from Global West. Can I do something like this with your kit, buy uppers first then lowers later? I just don't want to dump 4K at once

bmans vette

Just ordered mine......

Neil B

Any tricks to installing this? Are new (longer) bolts needed? Will I need to drop the header, disconnect lines, etc.?

Denpo

Longer bolt are provided, and I didn't need to unbolt anything else but the steering box to install it.

NewbVetteGuy

I've got a Borgeson conversion planned between now and Christmas and I just stumbled across this thread: have the issues with tire rubbing been addressed yet?

Is this an issue with 255 width tires?

Having the tires rub just doesn't seem like a good idea...

I've been thinking that I'd rather go with a Borgeson box vs. a full rack and pinion conversion but my 79 hasn't been touched and I'm going to need a lot of front-end stuff done so the cost between the two gets closer every day.

I don't really want to choose between garbage steering, cracking a frame, or rubbing a hole in my tires -those all seem like terrible options and if those are really my options then spending a bit more money for a full rack and pinion conversion AND getting the weight savings all of a sudden seems like the way to go.

If I can get good tight steering, reduce the stress on the frame, and not have to worry about my tires rubbing with a borgeson conversion + bracket, then I'd prefer to go that route.

Thanks,
Adam

Roadster71

First time I heard of the tire rub issue. I have had my borgeson box for three years with zero issues running 225-15's. I will probable add the bracket some time in the future only for insurance. I still can't see how the borgeson box would be any different on the frame than the stock manual steering system.

NewbVetteGuy

The rub issue is mentioned earlier in this thread and acknowledged by its' manufacturer. The rub issue isn't with the Borgeson box; it's with the bracket / bracket's bolts.

There were some requests for a recessed bolt to avoid rubbing but I never heard the MFGR report back here either way about it which is why I bought it up. -Because sloppy steering is bad, cracked frames are worse, and holes rubbed in tires are better than cracked frames but probably not as bad as sloppy steering. ---A rack and pinion conversion would be better than any of these.

I'd rather just do a borgeson+bracket install with a modified bracket design that doesn't result in the tires rubbing than any of those things, though.




Adam

Illegal Vette

I installed the box and bracket about 1500 miles ago and have 255's, the tire does rub on the bolts so I try not to do a full left turn. It only is noticed in parking situations.

Shark Racer

I switched to pan-head bolts. It did give me just a little bit more clearance and also I feel better knowing the tire is hitting a rounded head rather than a hex.

I'm running 255/45-18s on my car. In regular driving, not an issue, but definitely a problem when trying to turn around on a crowded street.

NewbVetteGuy

I'm going to throw this out there: Woudl it work to have this bracket just welded in place?

Could I do that and avoid the rub issue entirely, because I'd be totally fine with that.

Questions, comments, queries, concerns, or hate mail over this idea?


Adam

Zero1Niner

I just bought this bracket. Wondering if there is any way to possibly modify this to use the carriage bolts instead of risking the tire rub. Has anyone tried something similar?

Zero1Niner

I installed my bracket this weekend. Not too bad of a job.

I used the factory original carriage bolts. No tire rub. The slots were wider than the end of the carriage bolt, but the way it went on, the bracket held the bolt still, and the nuts tightened up to torque spec no problem.

Seems to make a huge difference in the frame twist. My car has a weak frame in that area, and now having the frame sandwiched between the Borgeson and the Ridetech, it appears much stronger than it was before. The twisting was completely obvious before, but now seems to be almost nothing. Drives better. Good $75 spent.

0Rodney@ridetech

Glad you like it! It does stiffen it up quite a bit. We have been abusing the same setup in the 48 Hour Corvette for over a year now, and haven't had any problems.

Kevin BC

[QUOTE=Zero1Niner;1592759805]I installed my bracket this weekend. Not too bad of a job.

I used the factory original carriage bolts on the front two holes, but still have tire rub on hard left turn, but basically only in parking lot situations. 245/45/18 tires. 18x8 4" backspace.

It would be nice to not have the tire rub. Is there any way to modify the steering "stop"? I haven't looked for this or tried yet, but think this should be able to be done?

Metalhead140

You absolutely can, here's a post from our local (NSW Corvettes) forum recently: http://nswcorvettes.com.au/forum/ind...c,11103.0.html

Kevin BC

Thanks for this. Looks pretty straight forward to do

Kim72

Been running the Bergeron box, c/w frame bracket, since they came out. Tires are BFG T/As, 255-60-15's on stock 8" rally rims. Changed out supplied bolts for stove head bolts (round head). They're easy to find. Yes, they can rub slightly on a locked left turn but that rarely happens and has never been a problem.