Steering Box Oil/Grease
#21
Safety Car
Steering Box Oil/Grease
I removed my zerk bolt when finished and tossed it in my toolbox so I could use it on another car, but there should be no reason you couldn't leave it in.
#22
Melting Slicks
It would be better to (using the proper procedure) remove the upper plate and dig out as much of the old grease as possible; then repack with whatever grease you select (leaving some air space, so when it gets hot and expands there is somewhere for it to go); then replace the top plate. There is a way to do that without losing the 'alignment' of components in the steering box.
whilst in the car, can i just -
hold the stud, remove the locking nut, measure the thread amount sticking out,
undo the 3 cap bolts and take it off by unscrewing the stud,
then clean out as much old grease as i can and then repack with new.
assemble in reverse.
i figure the main shaft won't move because of the pitman arm on the bottom holding it in place?
#23
what is and where do i find this procedure?
whilst in the car, can i just -
hold the stud, remove the locking nut, measure the thread amount sticking out,
undo the 3 cap bolts and take it off by unscrewing the stud,
then clean out as much old grease as i can and then repack with new.
assemble in reverse.
i figure the main shaft won't move because of the pitman arm on the bottom holding it in place?
whilst in the car, can i just -
hold the stud, remove the locking nut, measure the thread amount sticking out,
undo the 3 cap bolts and take it off by unscrewing the stud,
then clean out as much old grease as i can and then repack with new.
assemble in reverse.
i figure the main shaft won't move because of the pitman arm on the bottom holding it in place?
#24
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
OK, one last question - What size is the bolt please - thread size that is?
Thanks!
Thanks!
#25
Team Owner
The better approach (IMO) would be to remove the three bolts and the locknut on the adjustment stud while holding the stud in the same position with a screwdriver. Then, while again maintaining the rotational position of the adjustment stud, un-screw the cover and count the exact number of turns (and fractional turns) that it takes for it to dislodge from the screw. Any further actions with the box must keep that stud from turning.
Now you can dig out as much old grease (if there is any left) from the box and fill it with whatever you choose. Leave about 1/4" of airspace at the top of the box for grease expansion when it heats up.
You can change the upper gasket if you want, but the new one should be close to the same in thickness. Any minor differences can be adjusted out with final adjustment to the stud, once assembled. Start to engage the cover at the same position as when it was removed. Make sure that the threads engage on that first rotation. Now, count the turns and when the right number is obtained, assemble and torque the bolts and put the locknut back on.
At this point, you can attempt to take the slack out of the sector gear, using that adjustment stud. Hold the locknut with it a little loose on the stud and turn the stud CW slowly. You want to feel when there is some light resistance and then stop and tighten the locknut, making sure that the stud doesn't rotate further.
Take the car out to a parking lot or other open, flat paved area. Do some slow figure 8's with the car, turning the steering wheel to full lock left, then releasing it while still in the turn to see if it returns to center on its own. If it does not, the adjustment stud is too tight. Repeat this process while going to the right. Make adjustments according to whether the steering wheel still has 'slop' in it or if there is tightness in the wheel when returning to center. In the end, you want as little slack in the steering box as possible while having NO binding as the wheel returns to center from either direction.
If you get the wheel returns working freely, but still have significant slack when the wheel is centered, the sector gear probably has wear at the center of its travel and any improvement will require a rebuild of the box and a new sector gear (or rack).
This has worked for me on a number of occasions. I hope it is helpful for others.
Now you can dig out as much old grease (if there is any left) from the box and fill it with whatever you choose. Leave about 1/4" of airspace at the top of the box for grease expansion when it heats up.
You can change the upper gasket if you want, but the new one should be close to the same in thickness. Any minor differences can be adjusted out with final adjustment to the stud, once assembled. Start to engage the cover at the same position as when it was removed. Make sure that the threads engage on that first rotation. Now, count the turns and when the right number is obtained, assemble and torque the bolts and put the locknut back on.
At this point, you can attempt to take the slack out of the sector gear, using that adjustment stud. Hold the locknut with it a little loose on the stud and turn the stud CW slowly. You want to feel when there is some light resistance and then stop and tighten the locknut, making sure that the stud doesn't rotate further.
Take the car out to a parking lot or other open, flat paved area. Do some slow figure 8's with the car, turning the steering wheel to full lock left, then releasing it while still in the turn to see if it returns to center on its own. If it does not, the adjustment stud is too tight. Repeat this process while going to the right. Make adjustments according to whether the steering wheel still has 'slop' in it or if there is tightness in the wheel when returning to center. In the end, you want as little slack in the steering box as possible while having NO binding as the wheel returns to center from either direction.
If you get the wheel returns working freely, but still have significant slack when the wheel is centered, the sector gear probably has wear at the center of its travel and any improvement will require a rebuild of the box and a new sector gear (or rack).
This has worked for me on a number of occasions. I hope it is helpful for others.
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JeffWhite73 (04-23-2020)
#26
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
This bolt makes it real easy to get the grease in the box too!
https://willcoxcorvette.com/corvette...ion-bolt-63-82
https://willcoxcorvette.com/corvette...ion-bolt-63-82
#27
Melting Slicks
#28
Melting Slicks
#29
Same box. I do not know why they would say that .
#30
Drifting
Same box, same grease.
It's only if you replace your box with an integral power steering box, such as a Borgeson #800108 that uses Power Steering Fluid, that you would not want to introduce a heavy grease into the system.
Regards from Down Under.
aussiejohn
#31
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Thanks guys, or should that be "mates"! Sorry, had to lapse into stereotypes.
Hi John, been a long time - we met back in '99 at the NCM.
Hi John, been a long time - we met back in '99 at the NCM.
#32
Drifting
'99???
Regards from Down Under.
aussiejohn
#33
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I really wanted to do the Caravan this year, but the budget doesn't allow it these days We were over in California in 2013 which may have been our "Farewell Tour"! I'd like to think we'll be back there one day, but it'll take a lottery win I suspect
#34
Intermediate
After reading a few of the posts on the forum, I unscrewed 2 of the steering box cover bolts and added a total of 6 ounces of synthetic Green Grease using a large syringe through one of the bolt holes. Got it at Autozone right off the shelf. I took the car for a test drive and progressively tightened the lash adjuster screw in 1/4 turn clockwise increments until the steering was tight and the play was virtually eliminated. HUGH DIFFERENCE!!!! 60 mph is not so nerve racking anymore although my lack of power brakes still makes it interesting!!
Thanks to everyone on this forum, truly an amazing community.
Thanks to everyone on this forum, truly an amazing community.
#35
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I finally got my buddy to make me a greaser and, today I re-greased the box. I confess I didn't take the "risk" of removing the cover, but pumped in what seemed like a lot of grease! But, looking at the grease gun reservoir and the size of the box, I guess it wasn't as much as it seemed! Haven't had the chance to take the car out to see if it feels any different (its raining!), but it has to be better?