Repack wheel bearings
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Repack wheel bearings
I have a 1978 Pace Car with 47,000 miles. When should I expect to repack the front wheel bearings with grease? And do the rear wheels have bearings that also should be repacked? Any help greatly appreciated.
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frankgv (05-02-2021)
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Rear: If they have never been touched: Without the proper tools (to remove the bearings) there is nothing that can be done to lube. Pressed bearings etc.
The health of the rear bearings can be checked my measuring end play and noise. To properly measure end play the half shaft needs to be removed. But you can get an idea by lifting the rear wheel and checking play of the wheel @ the 12 & 6 oclock position. Use very little effort. This should feel as almost no play. With additional effort you can check the yoke end wear, and with strong effort check the trailing arm bushings. A car in good working order should have very little play. If you can easily move the wheel @ 12 & 6 oclock position you most likey need the complete rear suspension worked on.
My 78 has 180k km and I am now on my 3rd set of wheel bearings rear. and 2nd set on the front.
Last edited by cagotzmann; 01-25-2016 at 08:02 PM.
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Front wheel bearings should be inspected and relubed about every 24,000 miles, according to GM. Depending on your yearly use, you should inspect & lube at least every 5 years.
Can't lube the rears...regardless of what special tool is purchased to do it. When they need it, change bearings out and pack them with synthetic grease, IMO. If you don't want to use synthetic grease, go with the GM recommendations (which were developed before synthetics were readily available).
Can't lube the rears...regardless of what special tool is purchased to do it. When they need it, change bearings out and pack them with synthetic grease, IMO. If you don't want to use synthetic grease, go with the GM recommendations (which were developed before synthetics were readily available).
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A few years ago I disassembled my rear spindles to have a look at the bearings. They were original and were 40+ years old and 90k miles.
The bearings were in good shape, HOWEVER the grease was completely dried out and providing little or no lubrication.
A check for endplay or being loose would have given the appearance all was well. Not so, without lubrication, the bearings would have failed in the near future. A grease/time issue, not a mileage/bearing issue.
The bearings were in good shape, HOWEVER the grease was completely dried out and providing little or no lubrication.
A check for endplay or being loose would have given the appearance all was well. Not so, without lubrication, the bearings would have failed in the near future. A grease/time issue, not a mileage/bearing issue.
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A few years ago I disassembled my rear spindles to have a look at the bearings. They were original and were 40+ years old and 90k miles.
The bearings were in good shape, HOWEVER the grease was completely dried out and providing little or no lubrication.
A check for endplay or being loose would have given the appearance all was well. Not so, without lubrication, the bearings would have failed in the near future. A grease/time issue, not a mileage/bearing issue.
The bearings were in good shape, HOWEVER the grease was completely dried out and providing little or no lubrication.
A check for endplay or being loose would have given the appearance all was well. Not so, without lubrication, the bearings would have failed in the near future. A grease/time issue, not a mileage/bearing issue.
I wouldn't go more than 100,000 between servicings miles because even synthetic grease moves away from the roller bearings at that point which lessens lubrication.
Last edited by doorgunner; 01-25-2016 at 11:55 PM.
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Roller bearings should be COMPLETELY filled with grease (re-packed) to prevent loss of lubrication. Grease doesn't get slathered on...it gets forced into all the nooks and crannies in the bearing so it will always lube the bearings. There is a technique to manually pack grease into bearings; you can also buy devices that forcibly pack bearings with grease.
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A few years ago I disassembled my rear spindles to have a look at the bearings. They were original and were 40+ years old and 90k miles.
The bearings were in good shape, HOWEVER the grease was completely dried out and providing little or no lubrication.
A check for endplay or being loose would have given the appearance all was well. Not so, without lubrication, the bearings would have failed in the near future. A grease/time issue, not a mileage/bearing issue.
The bearings were in good shape, HOWEVER the grease was completely dried out and providing little or no lubrication.
A check for endplay or being loose would have given the appearance all was well. Not so, without lubrication, the bearings would have failed in the near future. A grease/time issue, not a mileage/bearing issue.
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Front wheel bearings should be inspected and relubed about every 24,000 miles, according to GM. Depending on your yearly use, you should inspect & lube at least every 5 years.
Can't lube the rears...regardless of what special tool is purchased to do it. When theay need it, change bearings out and pack them with synthetic grease, IMO. If you don't want to use synthetic grease, go with the GM recommendations (which were developed before synthetics were readily available).
Can't lube the rears...regardless of what special tool is purchased to do it. When theay need it, change bearings out and pack them with synthetic grease, IMO. If you don't want to use synthetic grease, go with the GM recommendations (which were developed before synthetics were readily available).
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Being a machinist I noticed that the housing could be drilled and for "flush-type" grease fittings that require the "needle-type" grease tip installed on the grease gun. I was required to do this procedure for certain customers who didn't have time to "shut down" their equipment for disassembly/maintenance....I use a .030" diameter carbide drill (bit) to drill through the bearing races/beveled the drilledhole and removed the sharp edge in the race so the rollers would not be damaged/used a larger drill to drill though the housing and drive flush-type fittings into the housing where they could be accesed at both with the needle-tip grease gun.
Then there would be no need to disassemble the rearspindles for re-greasing. It would require only "one shot" of grease every 50,000 miles in the small bearing and the larger rear bearing (it would probably take decades before enough grease accumulated inside the housing to be a problem---which would be time for new bearings anyway.
When I get around to the modification I will post pics.
Then there would be no need to disassemble the rearspindles for re-greasing. It would require only "one shot" of grease every 50,000 miles in the small bearing and the larger rear bearing (it would probably take decades before enough grease accumulated inside the housing to be a problem---which would be time for new bearings anyway.
When I get around to the modification I will post pics.
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That procedure will work just fine, if you drill the hole where the bearings DON'T track. Otherwise, that hole will be a stress-riser and cracking will begin at the hole.
Drill it in a 'good' place...no problem.
Drill it in a 'good' place...no problem.
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Pics avaialble?
Being a machinist I noticed that the housing could be drilled and for "flush-type" grease fittings that require the "needle-type" grease tip installed on the grease gun. I was required to do this procedure for certain customers who didn't have time to "shut down" their equipment for disassembly/maintenance....I use a .030" diameter carbide drill (bit) to drill through the bearing races/beveled the drilledhole and removed the sharp edge in the race so the rollers would not be damaged/used a larger drill to drill though the housing and drive flush-type fittings into the housing where they could be accesed at both with the needle-tip grease gun.
Then there would be no need to disassemble the rearspindles for re-greasing. It would require only "one shot" of grease every 50,000 miles in the small bearing and the larger rear bearing (it would probably take decades before enough grease accumulated inside the housing to be a problem---which would be time for new bearings anyway.
When I get around to the modification I will post pics.
Then there would be no need to disassemble the rearspindles for re-greasing. It would require only "one shot" of grease every 50,000 miles in the small bearing and the larger rear bearing (it would probably take decades before enough grease accumulated inside the housing to be a problem---which would be time for new bearings anyway.
When I get around to the modification I will post pics.
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