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Old 03-05-2017, 05:13 PM
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I have ticking from the tach. Slow tick at idle, increases with increase in idle. It's a new (4 year old) cable.

Can I pull the metal cable out of the sheath from either end? And then, is the 2/3 rule telling me to lube the cable all the way at to the distributor end? I don't have to worry about getting lube in the distributor, only the tach?
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GM used to recommended powdered graphite. It won't harm anything.
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The cable will only pull out from the dash end. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by BarryB72
I have ticking from the tach. Slow tick at idle, increases with increase in idle. It's a new (4 year old) cable.

Can I pull the metal cable out of the sheath from either end? And then, is the 2/3 rule telling me to lube the cable all the way at to the distributor end? I don't have to worry about getting lube in the distributor, only the tach?
I had the same problem with my 72. I used one of these. Works good.


http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette...cator-609467-1
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Thanks everyone. I've unhooked the tach cable from the tach with a long screwdriver before, so I guess I can do some stretches and get ready.

So if I use the fitting and buy an ordinary grease gun I'm just getting "ordinary" grease to put in it?
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And if I get powdered graphite I just pull the whole cable out and feed it back through the graphite before it goes into the sheath?
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Originally Posted by BarryB72
Thanks everyone. I've unhooked the tach cable from the tach with a long screwdriver before, so I guess I can do some stretches and get ready.

So if I use the fitting and buy an ordinary grease gun I'm just getting "ordinary" grease to put in it?


Yes. If it's a pistol grip type grease gun, no more than 2 pulls.
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Here is the factory AC delco specifications for cable lubrication.

Just follow this and you'll be okay. The speedo and tach cables are reverse wound so applying too much lube to it will only cause the cable to push the lube into the speedo/tach head. This will cause (and always does) premature failure in the speedo/tach head since the oylite bushing inside the head is not receptive to lubrication.

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I unscrew the cable from the distributor and hold it face up. I then put MOBIL 1, 0-10 or 5-20 synthetic into the end and spin the cable by hand.

Have done 6 or 7 with no issue.

It also works on cleaning the clock on a stove and the OE clock in the car.

In the old days I used LOCK EASE which is graphite in a solution, Messy but works really well also.

I don't like the grease due to it getting thick in the cold. I drive year round.

High speed R/C boats and cable drives use Graphite synthetic brake Caliper grease as a lube for the cables. They turn 20k to 30k rpm. It's water proof and very high temperature.

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How many drops of Mobil 1?
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Originally Posted by BarryB72
How many drops of Mobil 1?
I use 1 eye dropper full . I put it in the end and turn the cable by hand. It will usually go right into the cable.

Hold the cable up, the threaded connector makes a great cup and work it in. I usually hold the cable with a paper towel incase any drips as the car is really clean.
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I put in 1 mL but my "cup" leaked quite a bit down the outside of the sheath.

If I repeat the process and really concentrate the drops to go down the cable - how much is too much?
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You don't need much, on some cables I could actually feel the cable turn more freely. I think it softened the old grease and lubed the cable.

I use an eyedropper full, work it in and unless the cable is really tight - then two will usually work well and that is usually enough. It will spread and work into the cable.

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Originally Posted by sunflower 1972
I had the same problem with my 72. I used one of these. Works good.


http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette...cator-609467-1
That's a handy little thing for lubing the cable. I don't envy anyone trying to disconnect the cable from behind the dash. Presuming you just disconnect from the distributor and lube from there?
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Originally Posted by Corvetteoz
That's a handy little thing for lubing the cable. I don't envy anyone trying to disconnect the cable from behind the dash. Presuming you just disconnect from the distributor and lube from there?
Correct. Speedo cable at the trans. Pretty much every tech in the dealer service dept. back in the day had one.
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Originally Posted by Corvetteoz
That's a handy little thing for lubing the cable. I don't envy anyone trying to disconnect the cable from behind the dash. Presuming you just disconnect from the distributor and lube from there?
It's not a handy tool.. I'm sorry to disagree. To me it's a "gimmick" tool that will cause your tach or speedo to premature failure and should never be sold. It will in the long run cause more issues than it fixes.

It may solve your cable noise or issue but in the long run you'll damage your speedo/tachometer head which will cost you way more money than the cost to replace or lubricate the cable as per the instructions I posted above which is the factory AC Delco/GM lubrication instructions.

You would not believe the number of speedo/tach heads that come in here packed full of grease that are worn completely out. The grease gets in the head and because the first worm is magnetic it will attract lint and other debris from inside your car. This in turn sticks to the grease and can cause premature failure.

The worst thing about this is the first worm and magnet bushing (where the grease ends up) will fail rapidly from this grease being present. You guys need to keep in mind that the cable is reverse wound and it will pull any grease you apply to the cable upwards... That thing says you can use regular grease in it and you can't! NEVER ever ever ever use regular grease! Regular grease will be pushed up the cable and into the head of the speedo/tach causing the first worm oylite bushing to fail.

My advice is to be smart and either pull the cable or replace the cable. The cost of the cable is pennies compared to the cost of the tach/speedometer head repair.

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Originally Posted by Willcox Corvette
It's not a handy tool.. I'm sorry to disagree. To me it's a "gimmick" tool that will cause your tach or speedo to premature failure and should never be sold. It will in the long run cause more issues than it fixes.

It may solve your cable noise or issue but in the long run you'll damage your speedo/tachometer head which will cost you way more money than the cost to replace or lubricate the cable as per the instructions I posted above which is the factory AC Delco/GM lubrication instructions.

You would not believe the number of speedo/tach heads that come in here packed full of grease that are worn completely out. The grease gets in the head and because the first worm is magnetic it will attract lint and other debris from inside your car. This in turn sticks to the grease and can cause premature failure.

The worst thing about this is the first worm and magnet bushing (where the grease ends up) will fail rapidly from this grease being present. You guys need to keep in mind that the cable is reverse wound and it will pull any grease you apply to the cable upwards... That thing says you can use regular grease in it and you can't! NEVER ever ever ever use regular grease! Regular grease will be pushed up the cable and into the head of the speedo/tach causing the first worm oylite bushing to fail.

My advice is to be smart and either pull the cable or replace the cable. The cost of the cable is pennies compared to the cost of the tach/speedometer head repair.

Willcox
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