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Old 07-10-2017, 07:44 AM
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Is it necessary to use a sealer when replacing freeze plugs ? I have always put them in dry ?
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Originally Posted by Burnt71
Is it necessary to use a sealer when replacing freeze plugs ? I have always put them in dry ?
why take a chance of having a leaker.
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Always have used Indian Head for that. Why would you not?
Old 07-10-2017, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Burnt71
Is it necessary to use a sealer when replacing freeze plugs ? I have always put them in dry ?
45 years, I have never used sealer, nor does the factory. I do use brass ones though.

As for sealer. I guess no harm no foul.
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Originally Posted by Burnt71
Is it necessary to use a sealer when replacing freeze plugs ? I have always put them in dry ?
Yes, you can put it in dry. But, if it has a slight leak, then you have to go thru the trouble of removing and then re-installing. Of course the engine is back in the car at the time. What the factory did was based on time and cost factor spread out over the production run. So, I don't look at what the factory did or did not do as the holy grail. Freeze out plugs have long been an issue and I found a sealer made by Hercules (Blue Block) that does a great job. Just wear gloves putting it in, the stuff likes to get all over your hands and doesn't like to come off.
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sealer is ok,just a little works wonders,,and use a large socket inside the cup and just knock it in
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in 50 years I have never heard of a freeze plug leaking, because it was installed dry.
But I do use the Brass version, they are softer and conform/seal better, and do not rust.
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Originally Posted by 69Vett
in 50 years I have never heard of a freeze plug leaking, because it was installed dry.
But I do use the Brass version, they are softer and conform/seal better, and do not rust.
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Originally Posted by 69Vett
in 50 years I have never heard of a freeze plug leaking, because it was installed dry.
But I do use the Brass version, they are softer and conform/seal better, and do not rust.
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When you get somebody elses workmanship up on your lift, you get to see it all.
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If you have all the original GM parts and the same tooling that was used to install them at the factory, you can install them dry and they will seal. Otherwise, wipe a bit of sealer on them...just for "funsies".

Why take any chance that they might leak.

Most lip seal casings and some cup plugs are treated with a sealing-paint type material on their mating surfaces. That is used as a sealant. If it's good enough for new parts, it should be appropriate for you.

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the holes machined surface could have been scratched when the original expansion plug was removed and the sealer will cover this problem
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Can't hurt.
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I've always used a light coat of sealer on the plugs I install. helps lube a bit as it is pressed in and seals any irregularities in the block surface. I imagine brass seal better but I've always used steel. This is how I was taught in auto shop when I was a mechanic. never had a failure that way.
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Originally Posted by gungatim
I've always used a light coat of sealer on the plugs I install. helps lube a bit as it is pressed in and seals any irregularities in the block surface. I imagine brass seal better but I've always used steel. This is how I was taught in auto shop when I was a mechanic. never had a failure that way.
Brass plugs are really for marine engines or converting an engine over to marine use. Otherwise, steel is the normal, but brass is nice!
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15 responses on a freeze plug install.

It's like debating paper or plastic.

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Originally Posted by Big2Bird
15 responses on a freeze plug install.

It's like debating paper or plastic.
Freeze plugs do not come in either plastic or paper you silly rabbit.
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paper or plastic....
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Now if I could only find American made freeze plugs
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it is no fun to find out you have a leaker after the engine is in the chassis.

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