Someone mentioned that a 1974 corvette has the "Best Air Intake"
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Someone mentioned that a 1974 corvette has the "Best Air Intake"
Of Any C-3. My question is How and Why? Especially since and L-88 and an LT-1 have a Direct Air intake and front Air scoops?
How and Why is that?
Thanks for the info
How and Why is that?
Thanks for the info
#2
Melting Slicks
Sounds like it's just someone's opinion. It is like other things...everybody has one.
The L-88 had a great setup and the late 70's up to 82 had a good setup (the one with dual intakes).
I would think that if the 74 setup was that good GM would have used it for several years.
I have no scientific basis for my opinion. Just seems logical.
The L-88 had a great setup and the late 70's up to 82 had a good setup (the one with dual intakes).
I would think that if the 74 setup was that good GM would have used it for several years.
I have no scientific basis for my opinion. Just seems logical.
#3
Melting Slicks
If I recall correctly, the 74 intake only opens when the throttle is well open and the idea was to take advantage of the high pressure area at the base of the windscreen to pick up cool air for the intake. I believe that it was dropped after complaints about the intake noise when it was working but it did seem to be a nice idea to me.
#4
The '74 (and, I think, the '73s and 75s as well) has a dual snorkel air cleaner, drawing from under the hood, and a "cowl induction" inlet traveling through the hood from the base of the windshield. The air cleaner base has a gasket to seal it to the hood. A solenoid valve in the hood, operated by a switch on the gas pedal linkage, opens the cowl induction air passage at wide open throttle, allowing the engine to breath cooler outside air.
It also allows the induction noise to overpower your radio, passenger or even a stock exhaust. Very cool for a gear head like me.
It also allows the induction noise to overpower your radio, passenger or even a stock exhaust. Very cool for a gear head like me.
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Sorry. LT-1s had no special air intakes. If I recall, your original post concerned a performance hood and that's where the stock cold air induction popped up.
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the LT-1 had the big block hood for carburetor clearance because of the new intake manifold. there was no cold air function of any significance.
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The '74 (and, I think, the '73s and 75s as well) has a dual snorkel air cleaner, drawing from under the hood, and a "cowl induction" inlet traveling through the hood from the base of the windshield. The air cleaner base has a gasket to seal it to the hood. A solenoid valve in the hood, operated by a switch on the gas pedal linkage, opens the cowl induction air passage at wide open throttle, allowing the engine to breath cooler outside air.
It also allows the induction noise to overpower your radio, passenger or even a stock exhaust. Very cool for a gear head like me.
It also allows the induction noise to overpower your radio, passenger or even a stock exhaust. Very cool for a gear head like me.
That sounds like the TRUE reason. The cowl induction and solenolve are long gone on
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Arent these the same solenoids and flaps that everyone removed to keep open for BETTER "performance?"
Someday Id love to see someone actually show some proof that these things increased performance... In theory they are great but theres never any real data it seems to prove they were anything more than mainly a marketing thing.
cold air intakes certainly can help I'm not saying they dont (I strongly disagree with some of the claims Ive read though) . But the induction flappers on top of the cold air intake just seems unnecessary. wasnt its main purpose to warm the car up quicker?
Someday Id love to see someone actually show some proof that these things increased performance... In theory they are great but theres never any real data it seems to prove they were anything more than mainly a marketing thing.
cold air intakes certainly can help I'm not saying they dont (I strongly disagree with some of the claims Ive read though) . But the induction flappers on top of the cold air intake just seems unnecessary. wasnt its main purpose to warm the car up quicker?
Last edited by augiedoggy; 07-29-2014 at 07:56 AM.
#13
Arent these the same solenoids and flaps that everyone removed to keep open for BETTER "performance?"
Someday Id love to see someone actually show some proof that these things increased performance... In theory they are great but theres never any real data it seems to prove they were anything more than mainly a marketing thing.
cold air intakes certainly can help I'm not saying they dont (I strongly disagree with some of the claims Ive read though) . But the induction flappers on top of the cold air intake just seems unnecessary. wasnt its main purpose to warm the car up quicker?
Someday Id love to see someone actually show some proof that these things increased performance... In theory they are great but theres never any real data it seems to prove they were anything more than mainly a marketing thing.
cold air intakes certainly can help I'm not saying they dont (I strongly disagree with some of the claims Ive read though) . But the induction flappers on top of the cold air intake just seems unnecessary. wasnt its main purpose to warm the car up quicker?
I did a test of the stock as-installed system on my '73 and demonstrated that it does NOTHING to reduce intake temps at speeds less than 100MPH.
#14
I kept my 1974 Stock Hood, and removed the WOT damper
I kept my 1974 Stock Hood, and removed the WOT damper. I also put a K&N 66-1101 X-Stream Top Filter in place of the original metal top, to allow for more airflow.
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Melting Slicks
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Drifting
You guys are funny!
I don't know if the cowl induction on the Vette was any good but I do think that the hood looks better with the grille than without. Which is why I plan to add one to my 77. The grille that is.
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Its kind of like the article I read where they tested the performer,rpm and the air gap intake and found the air gap only keeps carb temps cooler for about 10-15minutes from the point of the car sitting and being completely cold. after the 10 minute warmup period the car lost all temp advantages over a regular intake and the cutout in the divider hurts more than it helps in most applications yet soo many still think its a better choice for a street engine.
I do like the looks of the vent in the hood as well... Then again my taste isnt for everyone because I really like the greenwood twin turbo hood that came with my 74... I have plenty of air flow, thats for sure. would I have swapped that hood onto a pristine car? probably not, but thats why I bought a project and made it mine guilt free
Last edited by augiedoggy; 07-30-2014 at 07:15 AM.
#19
This doesnt really surprise me...
Its kind of like the article I read where they tested the performer,rpm and the air gap intake and found the air gap only keeps carb temps cooler for about 10-15minutes from the point of the car sitting and being completely cold. after the 10 minute warmup period the car lost all temp advantages over a regular intake and the cutout in the divider hurts more than it helps in most applications yet soo many still think its a better choice for a street engine.
Its kind of like the article I read where they tested the performer,rpm and the air gap intake and found the air gap only keeps carb temps cooler for about 10-15minutes from the point of the car sitting and being completely cold. after the 10 minute warmup period the car lost all temp advantages over a regular intake and the cutout in the divider hurts more than it helps in most applications yet soo many still think its a better choice for a street engine.
#20
Without getting into the physics; once a car is in the 5-6 second 0-60 time range. Cutting another second off that time would take another 100 horsepower or so. That is one hell of a stretch for cars that made 190-250 hp net!
The hoods to look cool though and have a bit more clearance for higher manifolds!
The hoods to look cool though and have a bit more clearance for higher manifolds!