1972 454 intermittent ticking loss of power
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1972 454 intermittent ticking loss of power
Hi all new to forum and Vette ownership
Went out to start my corvette and noticed small oil leak. Checked the oil and needed 4 quarts. Started up ran fine, then it started a small intermittent ticking and then loss of power. Brought back home and pulled the valve covers thought it might be a broken valve spring. Could not move springs I assume ok? Started and all rockers looked ok. Found a small broken o-ring inside the valve cover. Oil level is fine now. Any idea what the ticking might be.
Hope this his is in the right forum I am new to the forum and any help would be appreciated.
Went out to start my corvette and noticed small oil leak. Checked the oil and needed 4 quarts. Started up ran fine, then it started a small intermittent ticking and then loss of power. Brought back home and pulled the valve covers thought it might be a broken valve spring. Could not move springs I assume ok? Started and all rockers looked ok. Found a small broken o-ring inside the valve cover. Oil level is fine now. Any idea what the ticking might be.
Hope this his is in the right forum I am new to the forum and any help would be appreciated.
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Definately the right forum. I fear bottom end problems. I threw a 454 in a boat, went running down the creek and it partially locked up on me. 20 min later started it and seemed ok. Idled back to the ramp, pulled engine. The 2 rear rods were spun bearings, crank toast, rods shot. I would drop the oil pan and check everything. With the crossmembers in front of the engine it is an easy job.
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Don't like where this story is going but maybe you "wiped" a cam lobe. I know its not fun but you need to pull one valve cover again. Starting at the front rocker arm Exh #1 check the valvelash by hand, grab the rocker, wiggle it. (The valve next door of course has to be open) Then jog the Ign key, next rockerarm, check, and so on. Anything abnormal? No? On to the other bank. I suspect a lobe or a lifter right now. The "O" ring is likely a valvestem seal.
Good luck.
Good luck.
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If you ran it that low on oil could be almost anything from collapsed lifter to scarred bearing. Make your self a stethoscope from a piece heater hose and a metal pickup and then listen at various listen points (Top of the intake, around the valves, timing chain cover, and around the oil pan from underneath). This is cheap and useful way to isolate the source of the noise. I would at least plan to pop the intake and check the valve train completely unless it's clearly knocking from the bottom end. Good Luck!
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Hi all new to forum and Vette ownership
Went out to start my corvette and noticed small oil leak. Checked the oil and needed 4 quarts. Started up ran fine, then it started a small intermittent ticking and then loss of power. Brought back home and pulled the valve covers thought it might be a broken valve spring. Could not move springs I assume ok? Started and all rockers looked ok. Found a small broken o-ring inside the valve cover. Oil level is fine now. Any idea what the ticking might be.
Hope this his is in the right forum I am new to the forum and any help would be appreciated.
Went out to start my corvette and noticed small oil leak. Checked the oil and needed 4 quarts. Started up ran fine, then it started a small intermittent ticking and then loss of power. Brought back home and pulled the valve covers thought it might be a broken valve spring. Could not move springs I assume ok? Started and all rockers looked ok. Found a small broken o-ring inside the valve cover. Oil level is fine now. Any idea what the ticking might be.
Hope this his is in the right forum I am new to the forum and any help would be appreciated.
Where was the oil coming from? You said you noticed less than half a quart on the floor, how long of a period of time did it take with the engine running for that amount to accumulate?
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How long and how many miles have you driven it since last checking the oil?
After you drove it and running it in your shop, how much more oil has leaked out?
If you are running hydraulic lifters and hearing a ticking noise, it could be a lifter is dry due to lack of oil in the system.
Using the method above determine where the ticking is coming from.
Figure out what the piece you found under the valve cover was! Post a photo.
As mentioned above pull the valve covers and check each cylinder, if you find nothing bent or broken, pull the intake and disassemble the valve train.
Check all components, including push rods and lifters.
If you find nothing, pull and inspect the camshaft.
After you drove it and running it in your shop, how much more oil has leaked out?
If you are running hydraulic lifters and hearing a ticking noise, it could be a lifter is dry due to lack of oil in the system.
Using the method above determine where the ticking is coming from.
Figure out what the piece you found under the valve cover was! Post a photo.
As mentioned above pull the valve covers and check each cylinder, if you find nothing bent or broken, pull the intake and disassemble the valve train.
Check all components, including push rods and lifters.
If you find nothing, pull and inspect the camshaft.
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If you ran it that low on oil could be almost anything from collapsed lifter to scarred bearing. Make your self a stethoscope from a piece heater hose and a metal pickup and then listen at various listen points (Top of the intake, around the valves, timing chain cover, and around the oil pan from underneath). This is cheap and useful way to isolate the source of the noise. I would at least plan to pop the intake and check the valve train completely unless it's clearly knocking from the bottom end. Good Luck!
Will try your idea on the stethoscope.
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as revi said did you check oil before the previous time you ran it? if there is a half quart on the garage floor and 4 quarts low, you must have lubricated the streets with the other 3.5 quarts, either the last time out or over time. now the pickup is less than a half inch from bottom of pan so engine can maintain oil psi with very little oil, but if you run hard, pumps more oil and drain back is no faster at 5000 than at idle. I fear you hurt your crank and bearings. that is why I feel you should invest in an oil pan gasket and check and replace all the rod bearings and check the mains. the lower main gets more wear than the upper. so if the bearing in the main cap is ok, you shouldn't have to crank the upper shell out to check it. is this type job in your wheelhouse? if not, where are you?
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Thanks for all the comments. Had my mechanic look at it. The exhaust manifold gaskets
as revi said did you check oil before the previous time you ran it? if there is a half quart on the garage floor and 4 quarts low, you must have lubricated the streets with the other 3.5 quarts, either the last time out or over time. now the pickup is less than a half inch from bottom of pan so engine can maintain oil psi with very little oil, but if you run hard, pumps more oil and drain back is no faster at 5000 than at idle. I fear you hurt your crank and bearings. that is why I feel you should invest in an oil pan gasket and check and replace all the rod bearings and check the mains. the lower main gets more wear than the upper. so if the bearing in the main cap is ok, you shouldn't have to crank the upper shell out to check it. is this type job in your wheelhouse? if not, where are you?
had my mechanic look at it. Exhaust manifold gaskets were blowing out. And plugs and wires were in bad issue. Not sure on the oil. But she is up and running Great again.
I am in Tupelo ms.