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Old 11-02-2017, 08:24 PM
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Default I'm getting half the vacuum I should be getting at idle?

Newly completed top end build. I've plugged all the vacuum hoses. I've also sprayed carb cleaner along the intake and the carb base.

I have a comp XE274 with a CR of 10:1. I should be getting 11" at 800rpm, but I'm getting a rapidly fluctuating 5-6"

What else should I be checking?

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I check vacuum using a full manifold vacuum port.

I checked and photographed when I did the chain. The cam gear and crank sprocket line up perfectly.

The timing I have messed with, but not a ton. The best I've got so far is about 11" at 1k RPM at about 14 degrees initial (Fluctuates quickly between 10" and 11"). Have not messed with timing past initial, however.

My mechanic is the one that did the valve lash. Supposedly to the specs on my cam card, but I guess shops can make mistakes, so I'll check that out next.

The carb is not tuned properly, because I can't figure this out. I can't get more than an inch of extra vacuum through carb adjustments

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Old 11-02-2017, 08:28 PM
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Where are you taking your measurement? Ported vacuum?
Old 11-02-2017, 08:32 PM
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Is the carb all tuned up? The mixture will affect vacuum. Not sure by how much.
Old 11-02-2017, 09:06 PM
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Where is your timing? More aggressive cams like more advance.
Old 11-02-2017, 09:38 PM
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https://itstillruns.com/erratic-fluc...-12227649.html
Old 11-02-2017, 09:45 PM
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Here's a good tutorial on vacuum gauge reading:

http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/186.cfm
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You may have tightened the rockers too much holding a couple valves open.
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Check with another gauge if you can. I was always given to understand that a jumping gauge indicated valve problems. Just went through this with a mite-vac. Hooked up a regular vac gauge and vac was steady.
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Timing and valves over tightened are good candidates to eliminate. You could also have a leak in the intake gaskets/seals that allows more air to leak in. The 'pulsating' indication is of concern.
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I have the same cam and I'm getting a steady 15" at idle. I agree its probably a valve adjustment and timing issue.
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You said you did a top end build. If you changed the cam and timing chain is it possible you are out one tooth on the cam gear? 5 inches of fluctuating vacuum is nowhere near right for any cam let alone that one. Running and tuned properly it should be up around 15 as posted by Crimson Thunder.

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I check vacuum using a full manifold vacuum port.

I checked and photographed when I did the chain. The cam gear and crank sprocket line up perfectly.

The timing I have messed with, but not a ton. The best I've got so far is about 11" at 1k RPM at about 14 degrees initial (Fluctuates quickly between 10" and 11"). Have not messed with timing past initial, however.

My mechanic is the one that did the valve lash. Supposedly to the specs on my cam card, but I guess shops can make mistakes, so I'll check that out next.

The carb is not tuned properly, because I can't figure this out. I can't get more than an inch of extra vacuum through carb adjustments
Old 11-05-2017, 07:35 AM
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Please post a photo of your crank and cam sprockets to show how they were aligned.

I'm in a similar situation, chasing a low vacuum condition on a '72 LT-1.

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Please post a photo of your crank and cam sprockets to show how they were aligned.

I'm in a similar situation, chasing a low vacuum condition on a '72 LT-1.

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Old 11-05-2017, 11:00 PM
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11" seems a little low to me. Tune the Carb, fuel mixture screws. Tuning the carb brought my vacuum from a 16 to 22 after a carb rebuild. I use the vacuum port that is connected to the choke pull off to measure.

Do one side at a time, get it to the highest vacuum reading then adjust the other side.
Old 11-06-2017, 12:06 PM
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My low vacuum issue turned out to be valves that were WAY too tightly adjusted. I set them up with the 0.024/0.030" gaps and now am getting a full 20-inches of steady vac at the manifold. Check your valve adjustments again.

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