Air Filter Horsepower Shootout
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Air Filter Horsepower Shootout
Engine Masters produced a new video comparing the many different kinds of air filters and how they affected the engine's horsepower under a wide open throttle:
But with the low hoods on our C3's we don't have enough room to use velocity stacks like the high hood '55 thru '57 Chevys. Ram air will solve much of the restriction problem but only at higher road speeds.
But with the low hoods on our C3's we don't have enough room to use velocity stacks like the high hood '55 thru '57 Chevys. Ram air will solve much of the restriction problem but only at higher road speeds.
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I loved that episode, unfortunately my cold air intake is a 3 inch side breather, wish I could fit the salad bowl under there
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I'm feeling better now about my velocity stacks- as they look good AND allegedly work!!!
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I saw that comparison and wasn't happy. I bought the Edelbrock PRO-FLO 1000 buying into the 'superior flow capacity' (and because I needed a smaller profile) but seems it sucks!!
I will have to change it at some point.
I will have to change it at some point.
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have you watched the road kill series. Its very Entertaining. Watching in order ties them together nicely. Theyre not corvette enthusiasts but have a few c3 episodes that fail and a c4 show. The c4 show is great, they turn it into a cart
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That foam element can burn your car down after a back fire. Get rid of it.
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If you're into working on your own cars then it's hard to beat the Motortrend shows.
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Keep in mind that they are using a 750 HP motor. that's going to demand a lot of air.
Your engine at 350 HP may work fine with one of the filters or stock can with a much lower air demand as they point out in the testing when comparing the losses at the end.
This test also assumes that the air filter is the most restrictive item in the system. In a well built engine with good flowing heads, intake and exhaust it will be, but not likely in a stock or close to stock motor.
With the stock air cleaner can with snorkel(s) you can actually measure the restriction of the air cleaner with a water manometer. Any more than 1 1/2" of vacuum inside the air cleaner box at Full throttle max RPM and it's too restrictive.
Your engine at 350 HP may work fine with one of the filters or stock can with a much lower air demand as they point out in the testing when comparing the losses at the end.
This test also assumes that the air filter is the most restrictive item in the system. In a well built engine with good flowing heads, intake and exhaust it will be, but not likely in a stock or close to stock motor.
With the stock air cleaner can with snorkel(s) you can actually measure the restriction of the air cleaner with a water manometer. Any more than 1 1/2" of vacuum inside the air cleaner box at Full throttle max RPM and it's too restrictive.
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Keep in mind that they are using a 750 HP motor. that's going to demand a lot of air.
Your engine at 350 HP may work fine with one of the filters or stock can with a much lower air demand as they point out in the testing when comparing the losses at the end.
This test also assumes that the air filter is the most restrictive item in the system. In a well built engine with good flowing heads, intake and exhaust it will be, but not likely in a stock or close to stock motor.
With the stock air cleaner can with snorkel(s) you can actually measure the restriction of the air cleaner with a water manometer. Any more than 1 1/2" of vacuum inside the air cleaner box at Full throttle max RPM and it's too restrictive.
Your engine at 350 HP may work fine with one of the filters or stock can with a much lower air demand as they point out in the testing when comparing the losses at the end.
This test also assumes that the air filter is the most restrictive item in the system. In a well built engine with good flowing heads, intake and exhaust it will be, but not likely in a stock or close to stock motor.
With the stock air cleaner can with snorkel(s) you can actually measure the restriction of the air cleaner with a water manometer. Any more than 1 1/2" of vacuum inside the air cleaner box at Full throttle max RPM and it's too restrictive.
All completely valid points.
So no need to go change your air cleaners if your only making like ~300 hp. (unless you have a dual snorkel with one snorkel taped over )
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What I would like to see is a comparison of room temp intake air vs introducing 140*-160*intake air and see what the losses are there. The losses are not linear either I suspect, the power losses would be accumulative due to many factors that hot air changes.
Too many people don't believe that cold air induction is worth a significant amount of HP vs hot under hood air induction.
Not to mention the throttle response and detonation avoidance advantages that cold air offer vs hot air.
In our engines with a carb attached there is also a significant swing in fuel mixture while using hot air for induction.
Maybe this test has been done with reasonably valid results?
Not air restrictive CAI systems vs free flowing hot (relative) air systems, but an apples to apples test.
Too many people don't believe that cold air induction is worth a significant amount of HP vs hot under hood air induction.
Not to mention the throttle response and detonation avoidance advantages that cold air offer vs hot air.
In our engines with a carb attached there is also a significant swing in fuel mixture while using hot air for induction.
Maybe this test has been done with reasonably valid results?
Not air restrictive CAI systems vs free flowing hot (relative) air systems, but an apples to apples test.
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What I would like to see is a comparison of room temp intake air vs introducing 140*-160*intake air and see what the losses are there. The losses are not linear either I suspect, the power losses would be accumulative due to many factors that hot air changes.
Too many people don't believe that cold air induction is worth a significant amount of HP vs hot under hood air induction.
Not to mention the throttle response and detonation avoidance advantages that cold air offer vs hot air.
In our engines with a carb attached there is also a significant swing in fuel mixture while using hot air for induction.
Maybe this test has been done with reasonably valid results?
Not air restrictive CAI systems vs free flowing hot (relative) air systems, but an apples to apples test.
Too many people don't believe that cold air induction is worth a significant amount of HP vs hot under hood air induction.
Not to mention the throttle response and detonation avoidance advantages that cold air offer vs hot air.
In our engines with a carb attached there is also a significant swing in fuel mixture while using hot air for induction.
Maybe this test has been done with reasonably valid results?
Not air restrictive CAI systems vs free flowing hot (relative) air systems, but an apples to apples test.
I'd like to see this as well. The Pauldana air intake system on this forum vs a stock open element air cleaner. It would sell that product a lot better with a back to back dyno comparison.
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Interesting. They show that the K&N with the side filter taped off using the top filter was BETTER than the whole thing.. ?? Also interesting that the standard base is that much better than the drop base - makes sense though.
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Yes, I think that isn't very surprising as air doesn't need to do sharp turn from the horizontal plane to get into the carb. Allowing air coming from the side will produce a turbulent flow at the edge of the carb. Of course, this works because air can flow straight down. That result is probably not representative when there is a hood 1cm or so from the filter top disrupting the air flow.
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That's what I was referring to. Maybe take all this with a grain of salt. Joe Sherman over on speedtalk says a k&N top filter cover will lose HP unless it is 4" or 5" above the carb from what he tested on a dyno. Looks like the snorkel guys are losing out even if they have a cai.
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