Best 255/60R15 vs price
#21
Instructor
Thread Starter
I really like the look of the BFGs the best,but I just don't think that they're worth the difference in price especially since it's a S ratted and the coopers and MTs are T rated. There is a $231 difference in price between the BFGs and Cooper and a $92.76 difference between the BFGs and MTs. I think I'm kinda leaning toward the Micky Thompsons or the Coopers. I really like the price of the coopers the best of course but I think the MTs look better and might be a little better tire.
#22
It looks like a lot of you guys really push your Vette's to the max but mine is just cruised with my Wife on the weekends. When I get the urge to raise some hell I get the Mopar out. It has M/T Drag Radials.
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#24
Drifting
Same issues re. finding performance 15" tyres as you guys 'over the pond' - all tyres (tires) sold and legal for road use here in UK have to be EU approved. BFG's and others are available - but are all only rated for 113 mph - hardly an indication of being performance related.......
What is known about Galaxy tyres - although not quite the ideal sizes - most are 149 mph rated
149 mph rated
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
130 mph rated
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
149 mph
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
149 mph
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
149 mph
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
What is known about Galaxy tyres - although not quite the ideal sizes - most are 149 mph rated
149 mph rated
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
130 mph rated
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
149 mph
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
149 mph
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
149 mph
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
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#25
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Same issues re. finding performance 15" tyres as you guys 'over the pond' - all tyres (tires) sold and legal for road use here in UK have to be EU approved. BFG's and others are available - but are all only rated for 113 mph - hardly an indication of being performance related.......
What is known about Galaxy tyres - although not quite the ideal sizes - most are 149 mph rated
149 mph rated
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
130 mph rated
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
149 mph
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
149 mph
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
149 mph
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
What is known about Galaxy tyres - although not quite the ideal sizes - most are 149 mph rated
149 mph rated
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
130 mph rated
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
149 mph
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
149 mph
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
149 mph
http://www.northhantstyres.com/main-.../galaxy-tyres/...
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...60-15:ty:Tire/
It is a V rated tire and the price is right too. I was about sold on the MTs but now I got to research these to see how they handle and ride.
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#26
Racer
I ran BFG's for years on my '67 Camaro...
Two years ago, I needed to replace tires on bot my '77 vette and '67 camaro.
Went with the Cooper Cobra's, due to price difference. I actually think they are as good or better tire than the BFG's...
I think the BFG's are over-priced, but that's just my opinion...
Two years ago, I needed to replace tires on bot my '77 vette and '67 camaro.
Went with the Cooper Cobra's, due to price difference. I actually think they are as good or better tire than the BFG's...
I think the BFG's are over-priced, but that's just my opinion...
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#27
Hmm... I had not heard of this place. I'll call tomorrow--looks like they are in Long Beach CA. If this is really a V-rated 235/60R15, then that price is lower than any of the 235's that I've been able to locate....and these are the only V-rated that I've seen.
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...ts:235-60-15//
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...ts:235-60-15//
Thanks I had not heard of these. The links won't work for me but I've been searching online and found these here in America
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...60-15:ty:Tire/
It is a V rated tire and the price is right too. I was about sold on the MTs but now I got to research these to see how they handle and ride.
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...60-15:ty:Tire/
It is a V rated tire and the price is right too. I was about sold on the MTs but now I got to research these to see how they handle and ride.
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#28
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Hmm... I had not heard of this place. I'll call tomorrow--looks like they are in Long Beach CA. If this is really a V-rated 235/60R15, then that price is lower than any of the 235's that I've been able to locate....and these are the only V-rated that I've seen.
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...ts:235-60-15//
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...ts:235-60-15//
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...60-15:ty:Tire/
Says its a V rated tire. I'm just wondering if they have any traction at all. I'm not sure where they are made at either.
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#29
I don't care where they're made. If it's the only v-rated tire available it sounds like a pretty good deal. It's not like I'm going to go hot-rodding. Traction can't be much worse than the old tires I have on right now.
I'll try to call them tomorrow and see what the scoop is.
I'll try to call them tomorrow and see what the scoop is.
I've been trying to find some reviews on the tires and can't seem to find any yet. This one right here is a P255/60R15 for $94.00 and free shipping
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...60-15:ty:Tire/
Says its a V rated tire. I'm just wondering if they have any traction at all. I'm not sure where they are made at either.
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...60-15:ty:Tire/
Says its a V rated tire. I'm just wondering if they have any traction at all. I'm not sure where they are made at either.
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#30
Melting Slicks
I run the Coopers with black side out. If I was going to run with the white side out, I would run the BFG's. It IS a lot about looks, right? Cooper, Kelly, etc white letters do look kind of cheap. I am happy with the ride, traction, etc of the Coopers.
Another option a couple of years ago--maybe still?--is Pep Boys. Their 255/60/15 was a Cooper with a different tread pattern. Sometimes a real deal when they have a sale.
And realistically, how often do you run long time over 100mph?
Another option a couple of years ago--maybe still?--is Pep Boys. Their 255/60/15 was a Cooper with a different tread pattern. Sometimes a real deal when they have a sale.
And realistically, how often do you run long time over 100mph?
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#31
Instructor
I have Mastercraft 255/60's on my '82 CE.I live very close to the 13 turn road course track, across from the museum. You get 4 laps for $45.00. A Zo6 pace car keeps you at 100-105 MPH. No tire problems for me.
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#32
I run the Coopers with black side out. If I was going to run with the white side out, I would run the BFG's. It IS a lot about looks, right? Cooper, Kelly, etc white letters do look kind of cheap. I am happy with the ride, traction, etc of the Coopers.
Another option a couple of years ago--maybe still?--is Pep Boys. Their 255/60/15 was a Cooper with a different tread pattern. Sometimes a real deal when they have a sale.
And realistically, how often do you run long time over 100mph?
Another option a couple of years ago--maybe still?--is Pep Boys. Their 255/60/15 was a Cooper with a different tread pattern. Sometimes a real deal when they have a sale.
And realistically, how often do you run long time over 100mph?
#33
Le Mans Master
When I replaced my 10+ year old Eagle GT II's on rear of my vette with the Mastercraft Avenger GT (aka Cooper Cobra GT), I found the tires bit better off the line. The old tires may have been OLD contributing to easy spinning but that was my experience. Price was about $150/tire out the door in 2014.
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#34
I've been trying to find some reviews on the tires and can't seem to find any yet. This one right here is a P255/60R15 for $94.00 and free shipping
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...60-15:ty:Tire/
Says its a V rated tire. I'm just wondering if they have any traction at all. I'm not sure where they are made at either.
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...60-15:ty:Tire/
Says its a V rated tire. I'm just wondering if they have any traction at all. I'm not sure where they are made at either.
I won't wear them out before they're 5 years old (checked build date, 33rd week of 2017), I'm not terribly concerned about wear since my old dang tires had lots of tread and they were ancient.
A couple of pictures for those who may wish to eyeball them:
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#35
The 235/60R15 were 84 each. With all the BS charges it came to $233.09 for two.
I asked about the 255/60R15s while there. They're 94 each.
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...60-15:ty:Tire/
I asked about the 255/60R15s while there. They're 94 each.
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...60-15:ty:Tire/
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#36
Le Mans Master
The 235/60R15 were 84 each. With all the BS charges it came to $233.09 for two.
I asked about the 255/60R15s while there. They're 94 each.
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...60-15:ty:Tire/
I asked about the 255/60R15s while there. They're 94 each.
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...60-15:ty:Tire/
What is the traction, treadwear, and Temp ratings?
If those ratings are remotely performance oriented, I would not walk but RUN for those tires, especially those of you who prefer to run the 255/60/15s.......................
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#37
Le Mans Master
The 235/60R15 were 84 each. With all the BS charges it came to $233.09 for two.
I asked about the 255/60R15s while there. They're 94 each.
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...60-15:ty:Tire/
I asked about the 255/60R15s while there. They're 94 each.
https://www.performanceplustire.com/...60-15:ty:Tire/
A "V" rated tire of almost any size for under $100 has to be a record.
Good luck... GUSTO
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#38
I will look tomorrow and see if I can determine where they are made.
Well, I went and looked.... just couldn't wait until tomorrow.
Made in China. I don't care. All the manufacturers have had decades to come up with something better than a "T" rated 15" tire. This is the first one I've seen in probably 10-15 years.
I did a phone photoscan (one of them android apps) and here is some info:
TREADWEAR =400
TRACTION = A
TEMPERATURE = A
and some other info about noise, wetness, and fuel performance. Not that I care much about any of those since they'll probably get old before they wear out.
Well, I went and looked.... just couldn't wait until tomorrow.
Made in China. I don't care. All the manufacturers have had decades to come up with something better than a "T" rated 15" tire. This is the first one I've seen in probably 10-15 years.
I did a phone photoscan (one of them android apps) and here is some info:
TREADWEAR =400
TRACTION = A
TEMPERATURE = A
and some other info about noise, wetness, and fuel performance. Not that I care much about any of those since they'll probably get old before they wear out.
carriljc, does it say on the sidewall where these tires are made. Galaxy is a brand of the Alliance Tire Company. They were acquired by the Yokohama Rubber Company in July 2016. It looks like Alliance has plants in quite a few countries including the U.S.
A "V" rated tire of almost any size for under $100 has to be a record.
Good luck... GUSTO
A "V" rated tire of almost any size for under $100 has to be a record.
Good luck... GUSTO
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#39
Le Mans Master
I will look tomorrow and see if I can determine where they are made.
Well, I went and looked.... just couldn't wait until tomorrow.
Made in China. I don't care. All the manufacturers have had decades to come up with something better than a "T" rated 15" tire. This is the first one I've seen in probably 10-15 years.
I did a phone photoscan (one of them android apps) and here is some info:
TREADWEAR =400
TRACTION = A
TEMPERATURE = A
and some other info about noise, wetness, and fuel performance. Not that I care much about any of those since they'll probably get old before they wear out.
Well, I went and looked.... just couldn't wait until tomorrow.
Made in China. I don't care. All the manufacturers have had decades to come up with something better than a "T" rated 15" tire. This is the first one I've seen in probably 10-15 years.
I did a phone photoscan (one of them android apps) and here is some info:
TREADWEAR =400
TRACTION = A
TEMPERATURE = A
and some other info about noise, wetness, and fuel performance. Not that I care much about any of those since they'll probably get old before they wear out.
I would not be afraid of tires made in China, as much as I tried to avoid them as well. Just an FYI Cooper makes their tires all over the world including China, Europe, USA, etc...it depends on the cooper model.
I have and have had multiple sets now for a number of years on 2 DD of Cooper's RS3-A-ultra high performance all seasons-GREAT TIRE and MADE IN CHINA....from Cooper. W Speed rated-169 MPH
Treadwear-500/Traction AA/Temp A
I also have a set of Cooper RS3-S Summer only ultra high performance for my 94 Mustang GT which I literally just put on before the winter-Y Rated-186 MPH-Made in the USA from Cooper. No real miles on them to evaluate. Treadwear 300/Traction AA/Temp A
On my C3 are Kuhmo ECSTA SPT's 255/45/17 W Rated Made in Korea..Great tire as well.
You can see from the ratings on the coopers the rubber compound differences and the speed rating indicates the tire carcass's ability to shed heat and stay together at speed.
On your tires the ratings indicate:
Treadwear of 400-moderately hard rubber indicating ultra high performance all season..that is a pretty good number for an UHPA tire for traction but indicates moderate wear rate
Traction A-Best rating is AA-ability to stop in the wet-indicates tread design is not optimal to evacuate water for max braking...This number should be AA for a V rating so slightly compromised but heck for under $100..you get what you pay for.
V rating-tire rated in a straight line up to 149MPG...about the best you can get for a 255/60/15
I would try them if I was still running my OEM 15's..
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#40
Le Mans Master
Like many here, I too have given up expecting the well known tire manufacturing companies to produce quality tires for our classic vehicles in anything close to appropriate sizes. I have pretty much given up on Goodyear after decades of considering them to one of the best tire brands to buy. Even after having numerous conversations with Goodyear tire reps at major car shows, I no longer believe they have any interest in our market.
One thing I have discovered regarding Chinese tires however is that there appears to be a major difference between tires manufactured by the major brands (Goodyear, Michelin,Toyo, Cooper, Pirelli, and Kumho) in China and Chinese-label tires or those made in China under contract for some private store labels.
According to Goodyear, “We have same global quality standards around the world, the standards are the same whether we make it in Oklahoma, Germany, Brazil, Indonesia, or China, the product standards are the same.”
Michelin essentially says the same thing, “Michelin is very persnickety. At the Chinese plant you couldn’t tell if you were in China or in South Carolina. The plant has the same controls, the same machines and the same uniforms on the workers.”
Here are a couple of articles posted in the past regarding Chinese manufactured tires...
From an MSNBC report in 2009...From a Consumer Reports article in 2014,
GUSTO
One thing I have discovered regarding Chinese tires however is that there appears to be a major difference between tires manufactured by the major brands (Goodyear, Michelin,Toyo, Cooper, Pirelli, and Kumho) in China and Chinese-label tires or those made in China under contract for some private store labels.
According to Goodyear, “We have same global quality standards around the world, the standards are the same whether we make it in Oklahoma, Germany, Brazil, Indonesia, or China, the product standards are the same.”
Michelin essentially says the same thing, “Michelin is very persnickety. At the Chinese plant you couldn’t tell if you were in China or in South Carolina. The plant has the same controls, the same machines and the same uniforms on the workers.”
Here are a couple of articles posted in the past regarding Chinese manufactured tires...
From an MSNBC report in 2009...From a Consumer Reports article in 2014,
Consumer Reports finds Chinese tire brands are no bargain
Beware of low-price pitch when it comes to these tires
With prices starting at just $89, less than half the cost of better-known models, tires from China may seem like an irresistible deal. That’s why, for the first time, Consumer Reports included a few Chinese brands in our latest tests: Geostar, Pegasus, and Sunny.
These were included in the recently published the results of testing 20 all-weather and all-season tires for light-duty pickups and SUVs. A fourth brand, from Aeolus, was tested but not reported when we couldn’t find a ready supply of tires for consumers. This supply issue seems to be a problem when buying “off brand” tires, because you don’t know whether the tires will be around for any length of time should you need a replacement.
…
Update:
Consumer Reports has removed its ratings for the Pegasus Advanta SUV tire originally reported on page 60 of our November issue and online. Although we purchased the tire through normal retail channels, Arizona-based American Pacific Industries (API) notified us that, based on the DOT tire identification code on our tires, the model tested was not produced or distributed by an authorized Pegasus vendor. The “unauthorized” Pegasus tires performed relatively poorly for snow traction and tread life. We have not tested “authorized” Pegasus tires. https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...gain/index.htm
Good luck and be safe out there... especially if you happen to be in our current ...snow belt!Beware of low-price pitch when it comes to these tires
With prices starting at just $89, less than half the cost of better-known models, tires from China may seem like an irresistible deal. That’s why, for the first time, Consumer Reports included a few Chinese brands in our latest tests: Geostar, Pegasus, and Sunny.
These were included in the recently published the results of testing 20 all-weather and all-season tires for light-duty pickups and SUVs. A fourth brand, from Aeolus, was tested but not reported when we couldn’t find a ready supply of tires for consumers. This supply issue seems to be a problem when buying “off brand” tires, because you don’t know whether the tires will be around for any length of time should you need a replacement.
…
Update:
Consumer Reports has removed its ratings for the Pegasus Advanta SUV tire originally reported on page 60 of our November issue and online. Although we purchased the tire through normal retail channels, Arizona-based American Pacific Industries (API) notified us that, based on the DOT tire identification code on our tires, the model tested was not produced or distributed by an authorized Pegasus vendor. The “unauthorized” Pegasus tires performed relatively poorly for snow traction and tread life. We have not tested “authorized” Pegasus tires. https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...gain/index.htm
GUSTO
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