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Old 01-15-2018, 11:54 AM
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I haven't been having any luck figuring out how to install these, nor am I sure of how to interpret the AIM.

• Do they go in front of or to the rear of the body mount?

• Is it the #1 body mount that they're supposed to be "installed flush" with?

• Should they have been installed BEFORE the body drop?

It seems nearly impossible to "feed" them over the top of the frame within the small gap between the body and the frame.

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I know nothing about these but the drawing shows them ahead of the body mout, apparently flush with the top of it, with the short leg outboard and hanging about 1.6" below the top of the frame rail.
It appears that these would need to be installed before the body is dropped unless they are super spongy.
Someone who knows what they are talking about can surely fill you in.
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Hi CU,
Here's a photo showing the body coming down on the chassis.
If you look carefully you can see the frame shields which which were a 'cream' colored foam and also the heat collar on the top of the bell housing.
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The frame shields are just forward of the #2 body mount.



The long 'tail' was on the inside of the frame rail.

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Originally Posted by stumpshot
I know nothing about these but the drawing shows them ahead of the body mout, apparently flush with the top of it, with the short leg outboard and hanging about 1.6" below the top of the frame rail.
It appears that these would need to be installed before the body is dropped unless they are super spongy.
Someone who knows what they are talking about can surely fill you in.
Thanks SS.

BTW: We vacation in the Humboldt Nation quite a bit. Gorgeous place. You ever go to the Auto Expo in Fortuna? Do many Corvettes show up?
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
The frame shields are just forward of the #2 body mount.
Thanks Alan. I'll try to get them installed, but unfortunately, may have "missed the boat" on these. At least I now know which body mount the AIM is talking about.
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Hi CU,
With some ingenuity and time it's possible to get them in place with the body on the chassis.
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Originally Posted by CrossedUp
Thanks SS.

BTW: We vacation in the Humboldt Nation quite a bit. Gorgeous place. You ever go to the Auto Expo in Fortuna? Do many Corvettes show up?
I go to auto in Fortuna but usually just to hit the swap meets. Over the years I've entered a couple of cars just to hit the cruise. I did shows for a few years but became bored sitting around in a lawn chair all day. Maybe a half dozen vettes show but lots of kit cars it seems. Last year we were gone all summer (and most of the winter) but might make it this year.

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When I did my mounts the passenger side came out. I only did the one side at a time lift method. I haven't put it back in as of now. I do get a lot more heat in the cockpit without it. You should be able to get it in by lifting the body a bit on each side.
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Here is my 69 right after the body came off
Where did you get your replacements?
I need some

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Hi Glenn,
The various larger vendors sell them...
Paragon... 153034K.
ZIP ... ZM-2569.
I'd GLADLY buy your originals!
I'll send you a PM.
Regards,
Alan

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I may have "lucked out" by having an N14 car!

Unlike gw's car, the foam heat blocks were NOT on the car when the body was lifted, but the side exhaust sill insulators were there and I replaced them with new ones when the chassis was restored. I'm not sure both would fit anyway as there doesn't appear nearly enough space left for the foam pieces.

BTW: The frame was very clean and virtually rust free. The only place where very light pitting occurred was underneath the insulators which apparently had, sometime in the past, trapped moisture holding it against the frame.
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Originally Posted by gwgwgw
Here is my 69 right after the body came off
Thanks for the pictures Glenn. Looks very familiar.
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Hi Doug,
What good photos and detailed work!!!!

I'd think if the insulators had been there they would left 'some' kind of sign.

Regards,
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Doug
What Alan said
Great work and photos
I am about the same place you are

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Thanks for the compliments gentlemen. It's a long journey but IMO a worthy effort. Although not a NCRS build, I'm hoping my results can at least approximate Alan's incredible work.

Currently I'm sorting out the body panel and door, pre-fit issues before sending the car to "paint prison". When I got it, every body panel (including the driver's door) had been replaced in a somewhat careless manner except the rear deck, tail light panel and roof. The left fender even had to be replaced a second time because it was installed too low and too far back.

Latest accomplishment was to get the side exhaust covers to fit properly utilizing the original factory attachment points.
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Hi CU,

"Although not a NCRS build, I'm hoping my results can at least approximate Alan's incredible work."

Doing what I did is really pretty easy since it doesn't require very many dollars and even less sense.

Regards,
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Originally Posted by Alan 71

Doing what I did is really pretty easy since it doesn't require very many dollars and even less sense.

Regards,
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