C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Ground Clearance

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-08-2018, 11:17 PM
  #21  
ZRXGreen
Racer
Thread Starter
 
ZRXGreen's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Chicago Suburbs Illinois
Posts: 355
Received 46 Likes on 41 Posts
Default Update

Good Evening Everyone,

So I finally got the car up on some ramps. I took a few preliminary pictures, as I plan to take more after removing the spare tire tub. I will upload those in a moment, along with a picture of the tire date code, which appears to state that the tires were manufactured in 2000. (They have 10,000 miles on them.)




Last edited by ZRXGreen; 03-08-2018 at 11:17 PM.
Old 03-08-2018, 11:51 PM
  #22  
Metalhead140
Drifting
 
Metalhead140's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2015
Location: NSW, Australia
Posts: 1,939
Received 472 Likes on 344 Posts
C3 of Year Finalist (track prepared) 2019
Default

2000 is way too old to be driving on.
Old 03-09-2018, 01:43 AM
  #23  
OldCarBum
Race Director
 
OldCarBum's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2016
Location: Napa California
Posts: 10,409
Received 4,653 Likes on 2,915 Posts
Default

Yes, those tires are a death warrant and need to go.
Those look like the OEM spring bolts and should measure about 61/2" in length.
Could just be the camera angle but it looks like the rear spring is sagging and if so, probably the issue with you car sitting so low. How many leafs are in there?
Old 03-09-2018, 01:57 AM
  #24  
Buccaneer
Melting Slicks

 
Buccaneer's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2005
Location: Arizona - If you don’t know CFI, STOP proliferating the myths around it...
Posts: 3,187
Received 997 Likes on 686 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Metalhead140
2000 is way too old to be driving on.

Six years is a good wag, but there is not a shortage of people out there that will disagree with that number and say it is much higher.... I guess it boils down to what you think safe really is when driving at a higher speed and how good is your luck.

The spring may be worn out as well, combined with the tire size smaller than 255x60x15, the car will sit lower. I think for a stock tire the Goodyear Eagle GT is a great tire, but they are rather pricey. Good luck with your C3 and congrats on the purchase.
Old 03-09-2018, 07:34 AM
  #25  
ZRXGreen
Racer
Thread Starter
 
ZRXGreen's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Chicago Suburbs Illinois
Posts: 355
Received 46 Likes on 41 Posts
Default

Thanks. Totally understood on the need to replace the tires. When I get home later today, I plan on getting back under there to see if I can get some better shots, count the leafs, etc.

Last edited by ZRXGreen; 03-09-2018 at 07:36 AM.
Old 03-09-2018, 08:17 AM
  #26  
ZRXGreen
Racer
Thread Starter
 
ZRXGreen's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Chicago Suburbs Illinois
Posts: 355
Received 46 Likes on 41 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Six years is a good wag, but there is not a shortage of people out there that will disagree with that number and say it is much higher.... I guess it boils down to what you think safe really is when driving at a higher speed and how good is your luck.

The spring may be worn out as well, combined with the tire size smaller than 255x60x15, the car will sit lower. I think for a stock tire the Goodyear Eagle GT is a great tire, but they are rather pricey. Good luck with your C3 and congrats on the purchase.
Thank you!
Old 03-09-2018, 08:25 AM
  #27  
TCracingCA
Team Owner

 
TCracingCA's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2002
Location: California
Posts: 36,629
Received 1,679 Likes on 1,002 Posts

Default

In the pictures, your spring ends look to be pointed uphill! Not good!
Old 03-09-2018, 08:31 AM
  #28  
Alan 71
Team Owner
 
Alan 71's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2006
Location: Westminster Maryland
Posts: 30,173
Likes: 0
Received 2,878 Likes on 2,515 Posts

Default

Hi zrx,
The spring does look like it has begun to 'sag'.
If you look back at the photo I posted of a pretty typical spring I believe you can see that it still has a small amount of arch in it.
Your spring appears to have started to curve up at it's ends.
This could very well be part of the decreased road clearance your seeing.
Regards,
Alan

There will likely be a wide range of suggested remedies for this.

Last edited by Alan 71; 03-10-2018 at 05:03 PM.
Old 03-09-2018, 08:06 PM
  #29  
ZRXGreen
Racer
Thread Starter
 
ZRXGreen's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Chicago Suburbs Illinois
Posts: 355
Received 46 Likes on 41 Posts
Default

As you know, my goal when I got home from work was to remove the spare tire carrier so I could take some better pictures; well that didn't happen. Got the spare tire itself removed which might very well be the original spare, a Seiberling. Amazingly, it is still inflated (50 year old air?? That would be incredible...) I looked the company up online and found this on Wikipedia:

"In the mid-1960s, Seiberling launched the SuperWideSport series, a bias-belted tire aimed to the Muscle Car market, booming at the time. The tire featured a whitewall on one side and a redline on the other, also common on the tire market at the time. The tire achieved relatively good sales being that Seiberling's Akron rivals had released good products to compete, including Goodyear's Polyglas, Firestone's Wide-Oval, Uniroyal's Tiger Paw and BF Goodrich's Radial T/A. The tire success did not go unnoticed and by the early-1970s the Big Three had some Seiberlings as original equipment fitted on their cars."

That was really cool to read...and to see that name on my tire. I'm sure many of you are familiar with Seiberling Tires, however until today, I had never heard of them.

Because of the position of my exhaust, it's very difficult to access the carrier bolt on the driver's side (I didn't even look at the passenger side yet). I got an open end wrench on the clamping nut at the top, and even tried turning the bolt itself, on the "flat" parts of the end. No luck and no movement. Talked to DUB about it and he had some great advice, but with my exhaust positioned the way it is, it's still going to be tough.

Here's the pics.


Old 03-09-2018, 08:11 PM
  #30  
ZRXGreen
Racer
Thread Starter
 
ZRXGreen's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Chicago Suburbs Illinois
Posts: 355
Received 46 Likes on 41 Posts
Default

Here's what pictures I could get of what I'm facing.




Old 03-09-2018, 08:17 PM
  #31  
ZRXGreen
Racer
Thread Starter
 
ZRXGreen's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Chicago Suburbs Illinois
Posts: 355
Received 46 Likes on 41 Posts
Default

This is the best shot of the leaf spring I could get. Is this a 9 leaf? I'm not sure what I should be counting.


Last edited by ZRXGreen; 03-09-2018 at 09:30 PM.
Old 03-10-2018, 10:24 AM
  #32  
ZRXGreen
Racer
Thread Starter
 
ZRXGreen's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Chicago Suburbs Illinois
Posts: 355
Received 46 Likes on 41 Posts
Default

I think I figured out the counting. 9 leafs, correct?
Old 03-10-2018, 10:30 AM
  #33  
OldCarBum
Race Director
 
OldCarBum's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2016
Location: Napa California
Posts: 10,409
Received 4,653 Likes on 2,915 Posts
Default

It's hard to tell but I count eight or nine leafs in there. The spring has sagged and it appears it has no arc left to it. Good news is that rear springs are plentlyfull out there and there are numerous options for you either to replace the original or go to a composite single leaf spring. It all depends on if you want your corvette to be all original or not and how you plan to use your car.
There are several threads on this forum discussing rear springs and suspension.
I went through Van Steel who has everything from stock, to composite, to complete coil over and all out racing suspension upgrades.
VBP is another vendor who is widely used by forum members.
Send us more photos and keep us updated.
The following users liked this post:
ZRXGreen (03-10-2018)
Old 03-10-2018, 11:53 AM
  #34  
ZRXGreen
Racer
Thread Starter
 
ZRXGreen's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Chicago Suburbs Illinois
Posts: 355
Received 46 Likes on 41 Posts
Default

Finally got the lower tire carrier assembly removed. Wow--that was not easy. Sprayed PB Blaster on the upper and lower nuts and let it sit overnight. If this car had rust back there, I would have been in big trouble, I'm sure. Pics to follow.
Old 03-10-2018, 11:57 AM
  #35  
ZRXGreen
Racer
Thread Starter
 
ZRXGreen's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Chicago Suburbs Illinois
Posts: 355
Received 46 Likes on 41 Posts
Default







Old 03-10-2018, 02:21 PM
  #36  
Neil B
Drifting
 
Neil B's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,565
Received 110 Likes on 85 Posts

Default

My car sits at 26.5" in the rear with a 26.1" diameter tire. The halfshafts are level at this ride height. I have 6" of ground clearance at the frame rails and tons of clearance with the sidepipes. Running the pipes under the rear spring mount is why you've got no clearance. It might work fine on a stock ride height car, but at your current lowered height it's too tight there.
Old 03-10-2018, 02:44 PM
  #37  
derekderek
Race Director
 
derekderek's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2015
Location: SW Florida.
Posts: 13,020
Received 3,387 Likes on 2,632 Posts
Default

You can see an easy inch of extra clearance just by replacing the squashed spring bushings. half inch mark on top of bolts where they used to sit higher. and would it be too Bubbaesque to fab a 1 inch spacer and add it under the spring end? even as a temp remedy until he decides what to do with-about the spring? Cuz as it is, the car is adjusting the ground clearance itself by flattening the exhaust pipes...

Last edited by derekderek; 03-10-2018 at 02:45 PM.

Get notified of new replies

To Ground Clearance

Old 03-10-2018, 03:04 PM
  #38  
derekderek
Race Director
 
derekderek's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2015
Location: SW Florida.
Posts: 13,020
Received 3,387 Likes on 2,632 Posts
Default

These are 6-1/4 inch with urethane bushings. stock length i thought was 6.5. this ad sez 6.25 IS stock length. and the urethane won't squish as far as rubber... https://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-1982-C...oAAOSwrx5UYZwX On the other hand, is there any diff between these bolts and any other grade 8 bolt?

Last edited by derekderek; 03-10-2018 at 03:10 PM.
Old 03-10-2018, 03:57 PM
  #39  
ZRXGreen
Racer
Thread Starter
 
ZRXGreen's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Chicago Suburbs Illinois
Posts: 355
Received 46 Likes on 41 Posts
Default

Thank you derekderek and Neil B.

Last edited by ZRXGreen; 03-10-2018 at 03:57 PM.
Old 03-10-2018, 04:15 PM
  #40  
ZRXGreen
Racer
Thread Starter
 
ZRXGreen's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Chicago Suburbs Illinois
Posts: 355
Received 46 Likes on 41 Posts
Default

I just measured the bolts, and while I can't get the tape measure to the very top of the bolt, they appear to be 6.5 inches.


Quick Reply: Ground Clearance



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:37 AM.