Is this really how they balance the rods in a 350?
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Burning Brakes
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Is this really how they balance the rods in a 350?
These are the rods that came out of my L82 350. Do they really balance the rods by grinding the sides and the top like this?
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Le Mans Master
Kind of some would call removing all the flashing typically shot peening afterwards as " race prepping" or lightening. There are balance pads on both ends of the older oem rods. Material is removed from either or both pads to balance. Removing parting line flashing would be considered lightening by an inspector. There builders who look for rods with the smallest pads because the beam would more material. The factory does a pretty good job of matching sets of rods. When flashing and pads are removed rods will need to balanced.
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If by "they" you mean the GM engine plant, then my answer would be no.
If by "they" you mean somebody rebuilding the engine then my answer would be that a rough grinding like that is not normally done, but I could easily see someone doing it that way anyways. You don't want it that way because any rough edge left on the rod could potentially cause the start of a crack.
If by "they" you mean somebody rebuilding the engine then my answer would be that a rough grinding like that is not normally done, but I could easily see someone doing it that way anyways. You don't want it that way because any rough edge left on the rod could potentially cause the start of a crack.
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From what I know, any grinding off the flash/polishing/shot blasting the beams needs to be done before any balancing work is done. Those operations are to eliminate stress concentrations that could otherwise begin a fracture.
For balancing- first, the small end weights are checked while the big ends are supported like a fulcrum. The lightest small end is used as a target weight to be matched to all the others by metal removal on the top pad of the heavier rods. Once the small ends weights are matched, the whole rod is weighed and the lowest rod weight becomes the target for the rest of the rods. Metal removal then typically comes from the big end pads on the rods that are not the lightest one.
Pistons/pins are all weight matched and the crank bob weights are calculated before the metal gets removed from the crankshaft weights.
For balancing- first, the small end weights are checked while the big ends are supported like a fulcrum. The lightest small end is used as a target weight to be matched to all the others by metal removal on the top pad of the heavier rods. Once the small ends weights are matched, the whole rod is weighed and the lowest rod weight becomes the target for the rest of the rods. Metal removal then typically comes from the big end pads on the rods that are not the lightest one.
Pistons/pins are all weight matched and the crank bob weights are calculated before the metal gets removed from the crankshaft weights.
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The low cost of better quality aftermarket rods justifies using aftermarket rods and just trashing the stock original rods. I shopped new rods and rod reconditioning machine work pricing. Once you include the price of better rod bolts the new rods are within $20 of reconditioned rods doing a lot of the work yourself.
Buy new and be happy.
Buy new and be happy.
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Burning Brakes
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If by "they" you mean the GM engine plant, then my answer would be no.
If by "they" you mean somebody rebuilding the engine then my answer would be that a rough grinding like that is not normally done, but I could easily see someone doing it that way anyways. You don't want it that way because any rough edge left on the rod could potentially cause the start of a crack.
If by "they" you mean somebody rebuilding the engine then my answer would be that a rough grinding like that is not normally done, but I could easily see someone doing it that way anyways. You don't want it that way because any rough edge left on the rod could potentially cause the start of a crack.
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Burning Brakes
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The low cost of better quality aftermarket rods justifies using aftermarket rods and just trashing the stock original rods. I shopped new rods and rod reconditioning machine work pricing. Once you include the price of better rod bolts the new rods are within $20 of reconditioned rods doing a lot of the work yourself.
Buy new and be happy.
Buy new and be happy.
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Burning Brakes
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The low cost of better quality aftermarket rods justifies using aftermarket rods and just trashing the stock original rods. I shopped new rods and rod reconditioning machine work pricing. Once you include the price of better rod bolts the new rods are within $20 of reconditioned rods doing a lot of the work yourself.
Buy new and be happy.
Buy new and be happy.
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