Can Someone Explain, Please. Rear camber bolt.
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Can Someone Explain, Please. Rear camber bolt.
Photo is the driver side rear camber bolt. I have almost 2* negative camber on the left rear. See the yellow line? Do I turn the yellow line toward the 3 o'clock or the 9 o'clock position to reduce the negative camber. I sucked at geometry. Thanks.
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towards the 9 O'clock position will pull the bottom in and you have a mark on the bracket that maybe is supposed to be aligned with the mark on the cam.
Last edited by MelWff; 07-09-2018 at 03:41 PM.
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You've got 2deg negative camber with that setting on the cam? Moving it to the 9 will not bring it in a whole lot. Are the bushings (at the strut/shock mount) OK?
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Last edited by Mooser; 07-09-2018 at 05:30 PM.
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That's what I was afraid of. This all started late last year when I replaced the lower control arm bushings. As long as I was there, I replaced the coil springs with Corvette Central 460lb springs. Those springs raised the front end about 4 inches, fine if you want to go off roading. No problem, I cut 1 1/2 coils off which put the front wheel opening just above the tire. Looked great, but changed the front alignment geometry. Also caused a light, twitchy steering feeling at speed. Put offset upper control arm shafts to fix the negative camber. Slotted the shafts to increase negative castor. Longer rear spring bolts. Those screwed up the IRS geometry. Left rear camber -2* along with 1/8 inch toe out. Right rear camber is -3*, but toe is 1/16 in. Bought a rear trailing arm bolt and shim kit not realizing how much of a PIA those are. So, I just ordered Moog 5758 front coil springs and try and put it back to stock ride height, hoping that will fix the problems I created for myself. Thanks to everyone who replied to this and all the other threads I made to try and fix this. You all have been very helpful.
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I have the same issue as I have neg 1 degree on the left rear with no adjustment remaining. I was pretty sure my strut bushings were good but I replaced them anyway. The poly bushings I took out looked like the day I put them in 9 years ago. Next task will be to replace worn yokes (about 1/8" of play) and see how much that helps. Doesn't seem like it'll get me much though. You might want to take a look at those also.
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That's what I was afraid of. This all started late last year when I replaced the lower control arm bushings. As long as I was there, I replaced the coil springs with Corvette Central 460lb springs. Those springs raised the front end about 4 inches, fine if you want to go off roading. No problem, I cut 1 1/2 coils off which put the front wheel opening just above the tire. Looked great, but changed the front alignment geometry. Also caused a light, twitchy steering feeling at speed. Put offset upper control arm shafts to fix the negative camber. Slotted the shafts to increase negative castor. Longer rear spring bolts. Those screwed up the IRS geometry. Left rear camber -2* along with 1/8 inch toe out. Right rear camber is -3*, but toe is 1/16 in. Bought a rear trailing arm bolt and shim kit not realizing how much of a PIA those are. So, I just ordered Moog 5758 front coil springs and try and put it back to stock ride height, hoping that will fix the problems I created for myself. Thanks to everyone who replied to this and all the other threads I made to try and fix this. You all have been very helpful.
In addition how did you adjust the ride height?
Are you aware that with a full tank of gas and the simulated weight of a driver the difference in height between the inner end of the strut rod and the outer end of the strut rod is 1 1/4"? That difference places the half shafts at the ideal angle relative to the ground.
Last edited by MelWff; 07-10-2018 at 03:02 PM.
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Thanks Dean, that's very kind of you but, I have a friend in Ingleside that has 6 toys (including a C3 And C4) who has a lift also and has been helping me. I had it over at his place and he helped with lower control arm bushings, ball joints and coil spring replacement. Hey, when I take the vette out for a drive (not so much so far this year) I always drive around and through McHenry, so if you see me toot your horn! Neil
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I have the same issue as I have neg 1 degree on the left rear with no adjustment remaining. I was pretty sure my strut bushings were good but I replaced them anyway. The poly bushings I took out looked like the day I put them in 9 years ago. Next task will be to replace worn yokes (about 1/8" of play) and see how much that helps. Doesn't seem like it'll get me much though. You might want to take a look at those also.
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Wauconda?!
I love that place!
Maybe that’s your Daytona Yellow C3 I’ve been seeing around the North end of town lately?
I love that place!
Maybe that’s your Daytona Yellow C3 I’ve been seeing around the North end of town lately?
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Main to Garland to Gossel to Old Gilmer to Callahan back to Main. Sometimes I change it up and run it backwards!
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If you don't want to get in too deep at this point, changing to the adjustable strut rods will give you more room to pull that camber back.
I wonder if this is why sometimes the alignment guys bend those bottom rods. Personally I always figured they couldn't loosen the adjuster cams or didn't know how they worked but I guess it's possible when they ran out of adjustment (due to worn yokes, bushings, etc) maybe, just maybe they bent the arms to get more caster out.
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I wonder if this is why sometimes the alignment guys bend those bottom rods. Personally I always figured they couldn't loosen the adjuster cams or didn't know how they worked but I guess it's possible when they ran out of adjustment (due to worn yokes, bushings, etc) maybe, just maybe they bent the arms to get more caster out.
M
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If you don't want to get in too deep at this point, changing to the adjustable strut rods will give you more room to pull that camber back.
I wonder if this is why sometimes the alignment guys bend those bottom rods. Personally I always figured they couldn't loosen the adjuster cams or didn't know how they worked but I guess it's possible when they ran out of adjustment (due to worn yokes, bushings, etc) maybe, just maybe they bent the arms to get more caster out.
M
I wonder if this is why sometimes the alignment guys bend those bottom rods. Personally I always figured they couldn't loosen the adjuster cams or didn't know how they worked but I guess it's possible when they ran out of adjustment (due to worn yokes, bushings, etc) maybe, just maybe they bent the arms to get more caster out.
M
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I always thought the bent rods were caused by someone jacking the rear up by the center of a strut rod.