A/C Quadrajet solenoid bracket
#1
Racer
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A/C Quadrajet solenoid bracket
1969 Small block
I am looking for a A/C Quadrajet solenoid bracket. The one I purchased from a vender is not the correct design see below pic #1 and only fits pic #2a & pic# 2b, type carbs. I have pic #3 design. I am looking for either pic #4a & 4b or pic #5 or any other design that would work to hold the solenoid in place. Any suggestions?
Regards
Rick
Pic # 1
Pic # 2a
Pic # 2b
Pic # 3
Pic # 4a
Pic # 4a
Pic # 5
I am looking for a A/C Quadrajet solenoid bracket. The one I purchased from a vender is not the correct design see below pic #1 and only fits pic #2a & pic# 2b, type carbs. I have pic #3 design. I am looking for either pic #4a & 4b or pic #5 or any other design that would work to hold the solenoid in place. Any suggestions?
Regards
Rick
Pic # 1
Pic # 2a
Pic # 2b
Pic # 3
Pic # 4a
Pic # 4a
Pic # 5
#2
I would e mail Lars at V8fastcars@msn.com
#3
Racer
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I would e mail Lars at V8fastcars@msn.com
Thanks Bigbird but I think its more of a parts thing and not tech thing for him.
Rick
#4
Racer
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Then there’s this bracket but the solenoid half is not available.
http://www.firebirdcentral.com/1968_...p/htr-2057.htm
http://www.firebirdcentral.com/1968_...p/htr-2056.htm
Rick
http://www.firebirdcentral.com/1968_...p/htr-2057.htm
http://www.firebirdcentral.com/1968_...p/htr-2056.htm
Rick
#5
Racer
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This solenoid seems to be available.
Note the mounting position in the below picture. I don't have those mounting screw points need for the above bracket/solenoid.
With the bracket in post #4 it may work or may set to low, but possible??
Anyone know the distance between those screw points above?
Rick
Note the mounting position in the below picture. I don't have those mounting screw points need for the above bracket/solenoid.
With the bracket in post #4 it may work or may set to low, but possible??
Anyone know the distance between those screw points above?
Rick
Last edited by RickDett; 12-04-2018 at 08:54 PM.
#6
Team Owner
If you can't locate the correct bracket, it looks like you could use the [new] bracket you have (pic #1) by welding a square piece of flat stock in the top corner, then drilling for mounting to the carb's left corner bolt. There is also a hole on the front of that bracket which appears to line up with an untapped hole on the front of the carb. If that can be tapped (flat bottom tap) to install a short screw and stabilize the front face a bit, that modified bracket should do the job just fine.
That mounting hole on the front should guide you for setting the correct height and side-to-side position of that bracket,. That will give you proper placement for welding that corner plate and for drilling that mounting plate for the carb bolt.
That mounting hole on the front should guide you for setting the correct height and side-to-side position of that bracket,. That will give you proper placement for welding that corner plate and for drilling that mounting plate for the carb bolt.
Last edited by 7T1vette; 12-05-2018 at 07:10 AM.
#7
Racer
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Thanks 7T1vette
You would think with all the different GM setups it would be easy to find. I never realized there where so many carb configuration.
That hole lines up with the ported vacuum port, but a hole could be drill to the point you are referring to.
I prefer not to go that route.
Ultimately I would like to find a setup without modification.
The distance between those screw points in my last post (highlighted in the yellow circle) could begin to point me in the right direction.
Rick
You would think with all the different GM setups it would be easy to find. I never realized there where so many carb configuration.
I prefer not to go that route.
Ultimately I would like to find a setup without modification.
The distance between those screw points in my last post (highlighted in the yellow circle) could begin to point me in the right direction.
Rick
Last edited by RickDett; 12-05-2018 at 07:54 AM.
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Idle stop solenoid hole centers measure as shown. The screws used have a oval style head and measure about 5/8" total length. The shaft of the solenoid does turn so it's adjustable.
#9
I've read two different stories. One is that this is an AC idle-up solenoid. The other is that this solenoid is used to prevent dieseling, by allowing the throttle to close more fully once its unpowered.
So which is it? Or both?
So which is it? Or both?
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Racer
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Rick
Last edited by RickDett; 12-05-2018 at 12:23 PM. Reason: Reason: 15/16" not 5/16"
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Rick
Last edited by RickDett; 12-05-2018 at 11:16 AM.
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I spoke to a rep from the company who sell the bracket in post # 4. It measures the same 15/16". I have both parts ordered. I'll post back.
Rick
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Last edited by RickDett; 12-05-2018 at 12:16 PM. Reason: 15/16" not 5/16"
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Not sure what your current connector housing looks like. The new solenoid's 1/4" electrical spade will have a extended tang built into it. You can use either of these two connector housings to span that tang. The locking black one is correct, the white one will work but can be removed easily. White #2977514 Black #12004267.
Hope this helps
I hope you told him 15/16 not 5/16?
Hope this helps
I hope you told him 15/16 not 5/16?
Last edited by bmotojoe; 12-05-2018 at 12:00 PM.
#17
Racer
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Not sure what your current connector housing looks like. The new solenoid's 1/4" electrical spade will have a extended tang built into it. You can use either of these two connector housings to span that tang. The locking black one is correct, the white one will work but can be removed easily. White #2977514 Black #12004267.
Hope this helps
I hope you told him 15/16 not 5/16?
Hope this helps
I hope you told him 15/16 not 5/16?
Rick
#18
Racer
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Update post: Here’s what I did to add a solenoid which was not an original option on a 350ci 1969 car with a/c. As mentioned earlier without the solenoid the idle drops considerable and the A/C is not as efficient at such a low idle.
I used this bracket (pics below)
http://www.firebirdcentral.com/1968_...p/htr-2057.htm
and this
Carburetor Idle Stop Solenoid (Standard ES110)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carburetor-...72.m2749.l2649
One note
This was false information it measured appox. 1-1/4” but it did not matter because the bracket set the solenoid too low to reach the throttle linkage. I relocated the mounting position to make the solenoid as low as possible to not interfere with the air cleaner drop base. I drilled and tap threads into the bracket rather than using nuts on the back side (as in post # 4). I also ended up removing the unused lower portion of the bracket. I could not find flat head screws so I settle with philips screws heads.
Unmodified
Modified
This is the final setup in place.
This is the carburetor idle stop solenoid extension harness that I used.
https://www.lectriclimited.com/carbu...-harness-93890
Defiantly a worthwhile modification
Rick
I used this bracket (pics below)
http://www.firebirdcentral.com/1968_...p/htr-2057.htm
and this
Carburetor Idle Stop Solenoid (Standard ES110)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carburetor-...72.m2749.l2649
One note
Unmodified
Modified
This is the final setup in place.
This is the carburetor idle stop solenoid extension harness that I used.
https://www.lectriclimited.com/carbu...-harness-93890
Defiantly a worthwhile modification
Rick
Last edited by RickDett; 12-15-2018 at 06:02 AM.
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No, you can't weld pot metal. The bracket is steel, I believe. You can weld steel. What's up, Lars?