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Old 03-14-2019, 03:22 PM
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Default LS Swappers Rejoice: Holley Terminator X

Holley just launched the Holley "Terminator X" and "Terminator X Max" EFI controllers made for LS swaps. $999 for the Terminator X; $1,200 for the Terminator X Max which includes transmission control....
Both support Nitrous adn Boost control and come with the handheld LCD...
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel...t6q2moYwtBjmTY


I'd LOVE to see someone try to use one of these to control a port injected,CoP SBC with a 58x crank trigger ignition like mine, but I already have enough work head of me and spent enough money with Holley on my HP setup...


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Originally Posted by NewbVetteGuy View Post
Holley just launched the Holley "Terminator X" and "Terminator X Max" EFI controllers made for LS swaps. $999 for the Terminator X; $1,200 for the Terminator X Max which includes transmission control....
Both support Nitrous adn Boost control and come with the handheld LCD...
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel...t6q2moYwtBjmTY


I'd LOVE to see someone try to use one of these to control a port injected,CoP SBC with a 58x crank trigger ignition like mine, but I already have enough work head of me and spent enough money with Holley on my HP setup...


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1k for this?! Wow!!! Thats like megasquirt prices for Holley!!
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1k for this?! Wow!!! Thats like megasquirt prices for Holley!!
Yea, I've got like $2,300 in my Holley HP EFI and then they announce $1,000 EVEN for essentially all the same features (and then some) for LS-swaps...

I made such a comment on the Holley EFI FB page and they weren't too happy about the comparison, but I don't see how they wouldn't expect people to make the comparison.
Right now their reasoning is that the accessories that you can use are limited with the Terminator MAX for LS swaps (only support 2 crank sensors,high impedence injectors only, Bosch O2 sensor, etc...

A guy and I on there started theorizing that you could make the Terminator MAX work with his SBC StealthRam, LS Coils, and 58x trigger wheel and then the conversation got "Disappeared"...
It supports the same # of inputs as the HP, too and is the newer style case with diagnostic LEDs on the outside AND it actually comes with an LCD Touch screen- you don't have to pay extra for it like with the HP.



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Cleetus McFarland just mentioned yesterday or today that they're trying to get a sponsored Holley Terminator X for "Ruby" the C5 that actually has a body on it.


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at least Holley is spending $$ on developing new products. I have an 88 K1500 with EFI connection 24X & LS coils conversion, I have already got the 411 PCM and Painless harness. I would rather have this new ECM for familiarity with the Dominator & HP ecms I'm using in 2 other projects I have. Sometimes you just gotta make a choice and run with it or the project never gets done. Mission creep can permanently stop well laid plans.
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Originally Posted by NewbVetteGuy View Post
Cleetus McFarland just mentioned yesterday or today that they're trying to get a sponsored Holley Terminator X for "Ruby" the C5 that actually has a body on it.


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I am waiting to see how well the Terminator X works in ole Ruby . It is definitely a game changer for Motorheads everywhere hahaha
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That's a cool system and at a great price. Just a harness has been running $600-$700 after all.

There are cool things happening on multiple fronts. Have you seen PCM Hammer, the open source flashing tool for LS PCM's? Some very talented individuals have made great progress there.
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Originally Posted by NewbVetteGuy View Post
Yea, I've got like $2,300 in my Holley HP EFI and then they announce $1,000 EVEN for essentially all the same features (and then some) for LS-swaps...

I made such a comment on the Holley EFI FB page and they weren't too happy about the comparison, but I don't see how they wouldn't expect people to make the comparison.
Right now their reasoning is that the accessories that you can use are limited with the Terminator MAX for LS swaps (only support 2 crank sensors,high impedence injectors only, Bosch O2 sensor, etc...

A guy and I on there started theorizing that you could make the Terminator MAX work with his SBC StealthRam, LS Coils, and 58x trigger wheel and then the conversation got "Disappeared"...
It supports the same # of inputs as the HP, too and is the newer style case with diagnostic LEDs on the outside AND it actually comes with an LCD Touch screen- you don't have to pay extra for it like with the HP.
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Not a fair comparison. Your using the HP EFI to control and engine that wasn't designed for EFI, specifically your L82 which needs sensors, wiring and an ECU. Terminator MAX is designed for EFI LS engines that more or less only need wiring and an ECU. Add sensor costs and I'm sure the Terminator MAX cost would jump up fast....real fast.
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How's it not fair? HP with LS harness is around $2k and that doesn't include any sensors. I have no idea what the touchscreen costs but you'd probably be around the $2300 range once you included it.
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz View Post
How's it not fair? HP
Adamís comparing it to his non LS Holley HP thatís why.

Comparing it to a HP for LS is a different...the new system seems like a very good value.
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