Big2Bird

I used to wrench on an 80s Ferrari. The dealer used Fram.

jim2527

As others have mentioned there're flaws in this but its a great chart regardless. Keep in mind that its chart from a truck perspective. From a performance car perspective I would've weighted the categories differently. Cost would NOT have been considered, if a $15 filter's going to kill your budget then find another hobby. I would have weighted surface area higher, more surface area, in general means more flow and less pressure drop. Build quality is so subjective I would've given it a .5 but no more than a full 1 weighting. I'll give them a 'jim2527 scale and post the numbers..

So..re-weighted on the jim2527 scale of 30um = 5, quality = 1, surface area = 5, media volume = 3 and no price.. Previous rank in ( )

Mobile 1.. = 3.8 (2)
K&N..........= 3.4 (t4)
Wix...........= 3.3 (7)
Fram XG....=3.2 (1)
Fram HP4 = 2.8 (6)
Amsoil......= 2.4 (t4)
RoyalP.......=2.3 (3)
AcDelco ...=1.86 (last)

leadfoot4

If they're "industrial machine filters", then why do they list HUNDREDS of automotive/truck applications in their catalog?

speedreed8

Hmm. We use Baldwin filters on our high speed turbine gens for years and they turn 22000 rpm all day long. Offshore oil industry.
We also have hundreds of CAT engines running Baldwin’s. Never a problem.

Jebbysan

Because they will fit? IDK....started working on automobiles at the age of ten and NEVER saw a Baldwin filter on anything but a press brake or shear...
I would never use one....but I retract my statement...
Use what you want!

Jebby

Jebbysan

And what does one moving part spinning at 22,000 rpm have to do with the relevance of a filter on a small block? The filter will only flow it’s recommended capability....maybe a little more....
You might ask what does a industrial machine have to do with it? Just an observation, that’s all, and I observe that Baldwin is primarily an Industrial Filter company....because that is the only place I see them after 1000 machines and 1000 Hot Rods/OEM....
My point on the Baldwin filter is I would not use it in a small block that revs more than 6000 rpm continuously....because at that rpm the filter becomes the cork.....the application is wrong here.
CAT engines rev about 2500 max.....more about filtration there than flow....
But I can tell I am going to lose this argument by redirect so I am opting out now....

Jebby

T VETTE

Years ago we always used Baldwin filters on our circle track car and was good year after year.

F22

Here's a pic of my original 1974 engine after I've had it for seven years. This was just taken a month or so ago, after I took off the intake, carb and rocker arms to use on the new build. I used the NAPA Gold, along with Mobil 1, exclusively. I did not touch or clean up the intake valley or the heads whatsoever and it's exactly as it appeared after removing the components. There is not one bit of sludge, dirt or buildup, whatsoever. I flogged on this motor for seven years, including some drag strip action, but kept up on the oil changes and filters all along.

F22

This is what the original motor above, looked like seven years ago! All we did was swap heads and put a cam in it. The bottom end was untouched. We pulled the main caps, checked the crank bearings and put it together and back in, exactly as is. The care I applied to it, actually cleaned the entire inside of the engine!

jb78L-82

My OEM 78 L-82 in 2014 during the engine disassembly before the rebuild....OEM 66,000 Miles-20 years of mobil 1 15W-50 and Mobil 1 truck oil filter...pretty impressive folks:

speedreed8

you may be correct. I personally don’t use Baldwin on my car. Too hard to find locally. But they are well built. I use Wix. Good luck. 👍

OldCarBum

I've used truck oil filters in drag boats and classic cars for years.
It wasn't about more surface area or even filtration, it was just to have an extra 1/2 quart oil capacity in the system.

They can be a bear to get around some headers, but if you punch a pin hole in the upper part of the filter and one at the bottom, then let the oil drip into a pan overnight, you can spin the filter off and maneuver it through the header without making any mess.

WIX and Napa Gold filters have always been my preferred choices.

Back in the day when I was a high school kid, I worked in a full service gas station at night for extra money.
Does anyone here remember the old canister oil filters that were OEM on some american made cars?
It was not uncommon to do an oil change, drop the canister and find someone was using a roll of toilet paper for filtering the oil.

itsforfun

Just curious, but how many filter manufacturers are out there? I assume they supply many Brands, and probably have specifications for each customer. Unfortunately, we can really only TRUST the Brand.

leadfoot4

So, you're implying that Purolator, Fram, and/or Wix don't make filters for industrial use??

pauldana

the above thread makes the chart have more sense... the best ratings on the chart coincide with the top manufactures and what FRAM makes.. so it kind of reinforces the chart/// imho

I would agree with this..

100% agree with you... again... :-)

REELAV8R

I think the clean engine is more a function of the additive package of the oil rather than the filtration of any filter used. Mobil one has a very good cleaning additive package in their oil. Oils of years gone by did not have particularly good cleaning capabilities nor were they very good at keeping contaminates in suspension in the oil.

Big2Bird

bingo.

Steve Ference

ANY, Fram filter.

It will last for at least 50,000 miles before it blocks up.

BEST filter for the money,,,,, right?????

HeadsU.P.

50,000 miles?
Remove two zeros and watch the videos on YouTube about filter internals.

Some of you may remember a Fram commercial shown on TV years ago. It was about a mechanic wiping his hands with a towel and holding a orange filter.
At that time their slogan was:
"You can pay me now or you can pay me later'". Meaning that if you don't use Fram then you will pay the mechanic for repairs later.

Now that I am older and wiser I realize that slogan really means that if you install a Fram, you will pay for repairs later.

Bikespace

Perhaps we need a sarcasm tag? A coarse stainless mesh screen could last 100,000 miles. That would be even better than a Fram, and might stop some of the larger chunks of whatever got eaten.