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Old 05-26-2019, 02:47 PM
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So...my local buddy Bill Van Orman turned me onto this setup which he has on his 502.

Do any of you use the Daytona Sensors CD-1 ignition system?
http://www.daytona-sensors.com/cd-1-...n-systems.html

Bill has his hooked up to a Crane optical triggered distributor.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/crn-1000-1511

He can adjust retard for startup.
And he can use a laptop for setup.

Questions......
Do any of you use this in conjunction with any of the EFI setups on the market now like Holley's Sniper, Fi Tech, Edelbrock Pro-Flo, etc...???
Reason I ask is the Daytona system is programmable and the EFI systems(depending upon which one) are self-learning.

Neither of the systems will be cheap in the end.
Just trying to figure which match up best.

Bill is running carb on his setup. Which I could do also as I have a Victor Jr intake and 2 Holley carbs to choose from.

Thanks for any direction as I continue my engine builds....

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Come on folks....70 people have opened this thread and not a comment......

Lazy holiday weekend-itis?

BTW......thanks for all who made the sacrifice.....
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Locked advance ignition is not good for a wide range of rpm motor. IE street machines
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Hey Dennis-

So you are all in at $900? OK- wires you are at $1K

For about the same money you can do a coil on plug conversion... Just sayin.


Just a quick google search - I'm sure you could put one together cheaper as MSD is proud of their coils

https://www.summitracing.com/ga/part...BoC68kQAvD_BwE

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Somebody bought out crane electronics. But Crane made a wonderful digital dizzy with dials to set the amount of total advance. when the full advance is all in, and the amounts of additional vacuum advance. It was better than the MSD E-tech because of the choices. Crane also made really nice multi spark digital sequential rev limiter. then of course the nice coils. That is what I use along with Taylor Pro wires
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Originally Posted by gkull
Locked advance ignition is not good for a wide range of rpm motor. IE street machines
OK...are you saying the Daytona Sensors stuff is not good for a street engine...??

What about the Crane distributor?
Actually I picked that piece up on ebay for $179 rebuilt by Crane.

I went this route as Bill liked it for his 502 and has his dyno guys run that setup.

Here is an article all the way back to 2004 by David Vizard about the distributor.

I have that distributor right now.....

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/0411...ibutor-review/

So...George....give me your suggestion what to use for the street assuming I incorporate the Crane distributor.
You are right about Crane's electronics division being sold. A company called FAST owns that division. They kept the Crane part numbers but changed the name.

Let me know what you think.
And take a look at my 407/409 engine build thread also.....like your feedback over there also.
Dennis

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Originally Posted by Richard454
Hey Dennis-

So you are all in at $900? OK- wires you are at $1K

For about the same money you can do a coil on plug conversion... Just sayin.


Just a quick google search - I'm sure you could put one together cheaper as MSD is proud of their coils

https://www.summitracing.com/ga/part...BoC68kQAvD_BwE

Thanks Richard....
Like I said in George's reply, I picked up the Crane distributor online for only $179. I figured with the Daytona system I could add that for about $600. Total under $800. I already have a tablet to set it up and monitor it with.
Bill gave me good info back in December so that's how I ended heading this direction.

Of course, anyone with some hands on suggestions is greatly appreciated.......pro or con.....its a learning curve right now for me.
I always buy parts with future options and try to just recoup what I paid if I change directions (often....lol)

You have given me food for thought though. ANYONE running Richard's suggested system? I'd like to hear that too.

Thanks my friend....

Still planning on your electrical headlight set up for project #2.

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Daytona sensor would be great if you are drag racing. I Use the Crane HI6 R which is a nice sequential rev limiter multi spark box that installs with water proof jacks. so if you suspect a problem you can just disconnect the input and output jacks and then just plug them together eliminating the box. I've never had a problem in over 10 years.

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OK...are you saying the Daytona Sensors stuff is not good for a street engine...??

What about the Crane distributor?
Actually I picked that piece up on ebay for $179 rebuilt by Crane.

https://www.summitracing.com/nv/part...1511/overview/

This is one of the best digital dizzys made.

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I bought the MSD e-tec before the crane came out and I was sorry https://www.hotrod.com/articles/0411...ibutor-review/
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Originally Posted by gkull
Daytona sensor would be great if you are drag racing. I Use the Crane HI6 R which is a nice sequential rev limiter multi spark box that installs with water proof jacks. so if you suspect a problem you can just disconnect the input and output jacks and then just plug them together eliminating the box. I've never had a problem in over 10 years.




This is one of the best digital dizzys made.

Thanks George....

So keep the dizzy and add the Crane HI-6R unit.....
A big difference in cost for sure.

Just wonder which will be compatible with a self learning EFI setup....????
Need to dig deeper.
Like I said already have carbs available if the Crane setup is better with a carb vs EFI

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Dennis,
I am confused - Did you get a Crane Unilite "optical" trigger or the Crane "magnetic trigger" version? There is a difference. Optical trigger uses a shutter wheel with windows that tiny light passes through to an electric eye, while the magnetic trigger uses a metal reluctor that passes an electronic pickup. The advertising seems to imply both so ???

I have a Crane HI-6 setup like what George is talking about working with a magnetic trigger. Gets the job done. Never tied any EFI though.

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Originally Posted by stingr69
Dennis,
I am confused - Did you get a Crane Unilite "optical" trigger or the Crane "magnetic trigger" version? There is a difference. Optical trigger uses a shutter wheel with windows that tiny light passes through to an electric eye, while the magnetic trigger uses a metal reluctor that passes an electronic pickup. The advertising seems to imply both so ???

I have a Crane HI-6 setup like what George is talking about working with a magnetic trigger. Gets the job done. Never tied any EFI though.
Hey Mark.
Just realized that I never replied to your post here.
Thanks for the info about your setup. I am getting closer to putting engine # one together so I'll be on the lookout for a HI-6 with the rev limit function.
My dizz is the optical version for sure.
Thanks again.
Dennis

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