Originally Posted by Pale Roader

It may be your thinking. I find that the guys who think ov weight-reduction as spending money and buying the big-ticket items (carbon fiber anything, aluminum heads, light brakes, etc.) are the ones with the heaviest (heaviest lightened cars i mean) cars. The REALLY light cars often start out from guys like me, that want to go fast, but cant afford it. There are two schools ov thought for the welfare race teams like me... one, is just to gut the car and clap it out... holesaw everything, fake dash, race gauges, crappy race seats, lexan windows, just a garbage car (in my opinion). And then there is the other school, where we try and retain as stock, or as 'real' an appearance, as possible... a useful car. I liken it to guys who think going fast is just buying a schwack ov fancy bolt on parts, bolting it together, and then hitting the track. You see them at the track too... guys with the whole stroker AFR, Victor, high comp combo in the big dollar car, getting wasted by the guy in the modest car with the stock-ish 350 Vortec. Man, i see that a LOT in the Mopar camps. Stroked aluminum head 500's running 13's. 440 A-bodies running 14's. Sad. I find the guys that HAVE to think... do far better.

I'll tell you what. Here's your first challenge: I'm gonna get my daily driver/road race 73 coupe UNDER 2800lbs... with ALL OEM parts, save a set ov cheap aftermarket rims and some cheap import seats. And thats with far heavier than stock 295/50's on all 4 corners. So... how?

When it comes to weight reduction, its the smartest guy that wins, and never the richest.

Originally Posted by LT1M21Vette

So what you're saying is that you are smart and poor?