Found in barn L88 on EBAY (ATTN. Rowdy Rat)
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY
Tom,
A 1968 Corvette with a serial number of 19330 would have been built in the latter half of May 1968.
Body build dates for 1968 Corvettes coded as "A" began in August 1967... "J15" works out to be May 15 which is right about where it should be.
Regards,
A 1968 Corvette with a serial number of 19330 would have been built in the latter half of May 1968.
Body build dates for 1968 Corvettes coded as "A" began in August 1967... "J15" works out to be May 15 which is right about where it should be.
Regards,
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY (SBR)
I dunno......
'68's are so hard to restore because there's so many 1 year only special parts that it would need..... :cry
The fact that there was only 80 of 'em made in '68 would make it all the more difficult.....:cry :cry
Maybe if it's really an original I'd give him 5 grand or so.....:cry :cry :cry
Think he'd take a check?
:jester :jester :jester
'68's are so hard to restore because there's so many 1 year only special parts that it would need..... :cry
The fact that there was only 80 of 'em made in '68 would make it all the more difficult.....:cry :cry
Maybe if it's really an original I'd give him 5 grand or so.....:cry :cry :cry
Think he'd take a check?
:jester :jester :jester
#23
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY (Rowdy Rat)
Tom,
A 1968 Corvette with a serial number of 19330 would have been built in the latter half of May 1968.
Body build dates for 1968 Corvettes coded as "A" began in August 1967... "J15" works out to be May 15 which is right about where it should be.
A 1968 Corvette with a serial number of 19330 would have been built in the latter half of May 1968.
Body build dates for 1968 Corvettes coded as "A" began in August 1967... "J15" works out to be May 15 which is right about where it should be.
tom...
#24
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY (Tom73)
an L-88 vert with a luggage rack.... how cool is that? :rolleyes:
I like this part:
Well gramps, we found somebody who will take the old vette off your hands for $2000!! (Just kidding, little joke, not accusing the selling agent of any impropriety! :jester )
I like this part:
I will Not reveal the reserve on this car to anyone. We believe the reserve is reasonable. However should the car not reach the reserve, the highest bit will revealed to the owner for consideration.
#25
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY (SBR)
looks pretty rugged. spending $30k and and still needing extensive resoration? Am I missing something? This collectable stuff is nuts! I can only imagine what would happen if I showed up at home with that on the trailer. I might bite on the pile of lumber leaning against the car though. You would think that they would at least pull it out of the shed. Cars go in the barn because they have personal meaning to someone or they need more work than someone is willing to spend. This looks like the later to me.
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY (adamdinat)
My thoughts:
The car is being offered by a dealer. That generally scares me.
The car might just be the real thing. The damage, neglect, missing brake power booster may just be signs that the car lead a hard life. I found my LT-1 in a similar state (though a replacement block) and I knw the second owner hot rodded her. The condition does not scare or would not deter me if the car could be documented (even if all of the numbers do not match)
The documentation is key as mentioned. Given a 68 vert L88 sold for 135k recently (article in Car and Parts Corvettes), 40 -50K would be a great deal depending on originality and documentation.
The car is being offered by a dealer. That generally scares me.
The car might just be the real thing. The damage, neglect, missing brake power booster may just be signs that the car lead a hard life. I found my LT-1 in a similar state (though a replacement block) and I knw the second owner hot rodded her. The condition does not scare or would not deter me if the car could be documented (even if all of the numbers do not match)
The documentation is key as mentioned. Given a 68 vert L88 sold for 135k recently (article in Car and Parts Corvettes), 40 -50K would be a great deal depending on originality and documentation.
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY (Robert N)
Given a 68 vert L88 sold for 135k recently (article in Car and Parts Corvettes), .
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY (WESCH)
Stan is the better person to answer with specifics, but there were only 80 produced in 68. Given the fact that it was perfectly origional with low miles, the L88 designation drives the price up.
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY (WESCH)
Given a 68 vert L88 sold for 135k recently (article in Car and Parts Corvettes), .
To achieve such a high price for a L88, wouldn't it also require some racing documentation or is it just enough to be a regular L88 sold to anybody ?
Gunther
To achieve such a high price for a L88, wouldn't it also require some racing documentation or is it just enough to be a regular L88 sold to anybody ?
Gunther
What could make this one valuable would be if it has complete documentation.
tom...
#31
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY
Gunther,
Your basic 1968-69 L-88 convertible (that has had a quality restoration and the NCRS/Bloomington Gold awards to prove it) will sell for around $100,000 as long as there is documentation and history available... The prices have remained pretty stable for a while despite the best efforts of some to push them higher.
For a car with legitimate race history, the price will be much, much higher. I know of a 1969 L-88 race car in similar condition to this '68 that sold recently around $130,000... We're talking about a car that is going to need a complete body off restoration on top of the initial purchase price.
Looking again at the 1968 car in question... I notice that there is a radio block off plate on the dash, but there is also an antenna base on the rear deck. A radio and antenna could have been added after delivery, but it's just one more item that you take note of as being out of place on this car.
Regards,
Your basic 1968-69 L-88 convertible (that has had a quality restoration and the NCRS/Bloomington Gold awards to prove it) will sell for around $100,000 as long as there is documentation and history available... The prices have remained pretty stable for a while despite the best efforts of some to push them higher.
For a car with legitimate race history, the price will be much, much higher. I know of a 1969 L-88 race car in similar condition to this '68 that sold recently around $130,000... We're talking about a car that is going to need a complete body off restoration on top of the initial purchase price.
Looking again at the 1968 car in question... I notice that there is a radio block off plate on the dash, but there is also an antenna base on the rear deck. A radio and antenna could have been added after delivery, but it's just one more item that you take note of as being out of place on this car.
Regards,
#32
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY
Steve,
Looks like we were posting at the same time...
Yes, I caught the antenna issue too.
Still, there are cases of L-88 owners adding radios after the fact... The factory wouldn't provide one, but they wanted one anyway. GM sold retrofit kits for non-radio cars so it could have been done with all the correct parts. I want to say that the Dobbins book has a reprint of the parts list and antenna installation template.
By itself it may not be a deal breaker, but it's just one more thing you file away as you inspect the car... And one of the reasons that you absolutely need to make a personal inspection.
Regards,
Looks like we were posting at the same time...
Yes, I caught the antenna issue too.
Still, there are cases of L-88 owners adding radios after the fact... The factory wouldn't provide one, but they wanted one anyway. GM sold retrofit kits for non-radio cars so it could have been done with all the correct parts. I want to say that the Dobbins book has a reprint of the parts list and antenna installation template.
By itself it may not be a deal breaker, but it's just one more thing you file away as you inspect the car... And one of the reasons that you absolutely need to make a personal inspection.
Regards,
#33
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY (Steve Straus)
2 things bother me about this car...the only thing that would make this car valuable would be the NOM engine...so why isn't there a picture of the engine vin??? If you want big bucks for this trash, you can find a way to get a clear picture of the vin. Also this car is being sold by dealers (the most honest people in the world) :smash: , if it is real wouldn't they first go to the big restorers like Corvette Mike and there are ones in Florida, have them fight it out, they have the cash plus transportation, no hassle for them. I maybe wrong - but I think it's a phony :bs
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY (adamdinat)
looks pretty rugged. spending $30k and and still needing extensive resoration? Am I missing something? This collectable stuff is nuts! I can only imagine what would happen if I showed up at home with that on the trailer. I might bite on the pile of lumber leaning against the car though. You would think that they would at least pull it out of the shed. Cars go in the barn because they have personal meaning to someone or they need more work than someone is willing to spend. This looks like the later to me.
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JB
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY (JB)
A LeMans Blue '68 L-88 roadster which had issues sold a few years ago at Bloomington for like 105K and it DID NOT have the original engine in it. It was also ONLY a Bloomington Silver Award car too. :eek: :crazy: :rolleyes:
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY (Paul Borowski)
A LeMans Blue '68 L-88 roadster which had issues sold a few years ago at Bloomington for like 105K and it DID NOT have the original engine in it. It was also ONLY a Bloomington Silver Award car too. :eek: :crazy: :rolleyes:
JB,
'Cars go in the barn because they have personal meaning to someone or they need more work than someone is willing to spend. This looks like the later to me.'
Incidentally. my car was garaged (rather than the barn) for the for 24 years for the former reason. Many people KNOW what they own and its potential future value. They are 'parked' for a number of reasons, including that they need excessive repairs. The previous owner of mine intended to get her back on the road 'next year'. Next year never came and he was expanding his business. The logical decision was to sell.
Based on the comments by Stan and some of the more knowledgeable folk, I am leaning that it is either not a real L88, or modified.
This collector car stuff IS nuts. It is part of the reason I am facing a dilemna in whether to ultimately restore mine to full NCRS glory or something part way.
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Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY (Robert N)
I know that I am repeating myself but I hope the day will come when Chevrolet finally releases its records so that we will know for sure what cars had what options from the factory.
Stan, I am looking forward to Bloomington, see you then. :cheers:
Stan, I am looking forward to Bloomington, see you then. :cheers:
#38
Re: Found in barn L88 on EBAY (SBR)
I may be digging deep here but i feel like this is a hoax. I don't believe this is an authentic car. Does it appear to anyone else like the picture from the front of the car looks blurred, as if the photo was edited to hide the fact that the car was rolled into that spot????? It looks like they used photo shop to blurr the tire tracks. I think the car was put in the barn to decieve people into believing that it had actually been there for years :skep: :skep: :nono:
#39
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I have always recommended throwing a little dirt on a car to increase it's market value!! :lol:
That was a good spot on the antenna. I am not so good at that game, especially with such crummy pics, but I do like the rusty inline fuel filter they added (Purolator $1.79?). You gotta have clean fuel with an L88. I also appreciate that they went to the trouble to paint the windshield wiper accuator black. I hate that shiny gold look!
And... did all 68s have A.I.R? even L88? i cant remember... but this car doesnt seem to have one.
So, if you were really interested in this car do you think the seller (a dealer) would take you out to the owner's "farm" to inspect the "car" in his... "barn" ?
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That was a good spot on the antenna. I am not so good at that game, especially with such crummy pics, but I do like the rusty inline fuel filter they added (Purolator $1.79?). You gotta have clean fuel with an L88. I also appreciate that they went to the trouble to paint the windshield wiper accuator black. I hate that shiny gold look!
And... did all 68s have A.I.R? even L88? i cant remember... but this car doesnt seem to have one.
So, if you were really interested in this car do you think the seller (a dealer) would take you out to the owner's "farm" to inspect the "car" in his... "barn" ?
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