Quicker ratio steering idea
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Melting Slicks
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From: Wisconsin
Quicker ratio steering idea
I had this idea on how to make the steering quicker using the stock rack and everything. Now I don't know if it's already been thought of or done, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. So here goes:
On the spindle there are often two holes for the tie rod ends, one for the manual steering and another for the power steering. The power steering has a quicker ratio being the hole out furthest. What if someone made an extension to this piece of the spindle that put a new hole further out therefore making the ratio even faster. It'd be made out of aluminum or something and attack by two grade 8 bolts through the exisiting holes for the tie rods (2nd one would have to be drilled for the later ones, like mine, which only has one because power steering was standard, or have it boxed in so only one bolt would be needed, just to hold it from coming off, that sounds like a better idea). Is this idea completely wrong and not really possible (I'm not an expert in steering) or is it possibly feasible?
Now I bet it will be feasible, a company will read it, make it, and I won't get credit. :lol:
On the spindle there are often two holes for the tie rod ends, one for the manual steering and another for the power steering. The power steering has a quicker ratio being the hole out furthest. What if someone made an extension to this piece of the spindle that put a new hole further out therefore making the ratio even faster. It'd be made out of aluminum or something and attack by two grade 8 bolts through the exisiting holes for the tie rods (2nd one would have to be drilled for the later ones, like mine, which only has one because power steering was standard, or have it boxed in so only one bolt would be needed, just to hold it from coming off, that sounds like a better idea). Is this idea completely wrong and not really possible (I'm not an expert in steering) or is it possibly feasible?
Now I bet it will be feasible, a company will read it, make it, and I won't get credit. :lol:
Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
Re: Quicker ratio steering idea (Schmucker)
Good thinking. Unfortunately placing a hole further out will cause a slower ratio. I'm pretty sure i right on this. some of the other guys can give their opinion as well.
The closer in to the pivot piont ie. the ball joint the smaller the effective radius and thus the mechanism doesn't have to travel as far for a given input to the steering wheel. Placing a hole further out will increase the effective radius and cause a slower ratio.
Thats my therory. anyone care to verify or challenge?
[Modified by turtlevette, 2:39 AM 6/7/2003]
The closer in to the pivot piont ie. the ball joint the smaller the effective radius and thus the mechanism doesn't have to travel as far for a given input to the steering wheel. Placing a hole further out will increase the effective radius and cause a slower ratio.
Thats my therory. anyone care to verify or challenge?
[Modified by turtlevette, 2:39 AM 6/7/2003]
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Melting Slicks
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From: Wisconsin
Re: Quicker ratio steering idea (turtlevette)
Oh, I got it, I must have had the holes inverted in my mind. I got it. There might still be enough room to make an extension inward though.
Drifting
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From: Berlin
Re: Quicker ratio steering idea (Schmucker)
It would have to be a very beefy extension if there's even room. And you'd have to measure all the dimensions/angles very carefully to make sure it worked out right. Its much easier to just buy a different steering box or rack and pinion.
Le Mans Master
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From: Texas
Re: Quicker ratio steering idea (turtlevette)
I recently had my idler arm replaced when doing some front end work. Instructions said the closer in hole is for quicker steering. Makes sense if you think about it. It moves the shortest distance. Outer hole travels the farthest. But, for manual steering, makes the steering easier.
Advanced
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From: San Antonio Texas
Re: Quicker ratio steering idea (mrvette)
I must have had the holes inverted in my mind
:eek:
:)
;as long as you are not confused when in other situations..... :thumbs:
:eek:
:)
;as long as you are not confused when in other situations..... :thumbs:
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Melting Slicks
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From: Deltona (son of Deland and DAYTONA) FL
Re: Quicker ratio steering idea (Schmucker)
quicker steering?! :eek: Is it me or do these cars already have a fast ratio? When I get in our family sedan and take a turn I feel like I'm cranking that wheel forever. And that car is better than some others I've driven
I like a fast ratio, but not sure I would at highway speed on long trips Highway speed here in FL is 80+, even the old ladies think they're NASCAR drivers . :eek: :lol: Would be nice for autocross..
[Modified by isosceles, 3:09 AM 6/8/2003]
I like a fast ratio, but not sure I would at highway speed on long trips Highway speed here in FL is 80+, even the old ladies think they're NASCAR drivers . :eek: :lol: Would be nice for autocross..
[Modified by isosceles, 3:09 AM 6/8/2003]
