Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL
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Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL
Check out this L88 - is this for real - It looks really good, but after reading about it, was this car actually cut up for racing and then restored ?
http://www.rogerscorvette.com/L88/
http://www.rogerscorvette.com/L88/
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (RATT7)
There is a news item in July 21 AutoWeek about that car.. Roger paid $640K for it.. That's 6--4--0--,000 dollars
. The most ever for a production corvette. :eek:
. The most ever for a production corvette. :eek:
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (LAvetteman)
Roger Judski is one of the most respected Corvette people in this country. His stable includes some of the most collectible corvettes ever made.
He owns one of the rarest of all..1969 ZL-1, and he is an authority on L88's.
He owns one of the rarest of all..1969 ZL-1, and he is an authority on L88's.
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (bamavettes)
Roger Judski is one of the most respected Corvette people in this country. His stable includes some of the most collectible corvettes ever made.
He owns one of the rarest of all..1969 ZL-1, and he is an authority on L88's.
He owns one of the rarest of all..1969 ZL-1, and he is an authority on L88's.
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (Robert N)
The names and companies are legitimate, and being a Seattleite, I have heard of this story before.
Interestingly enough, a Seattle-area collector I know not only has a rarer '67 L89, but also a '68 L88 Convertible. (Both are sitting next to a '63 Z06.) He's a very nice guy and a Chevy fanatic (also owns Camaros, Impalas, Bel Airs, a hi-po Chevelle.)
Seattle got many of the highest hp muscle cars, because racing has always been big out here. My father-in-law almost bought new in 1970 one of the 14 original Hemi Cuda convertibles off a show-room floor.
Interestingly enough, a Seattle-area collector I know not only has a rarer '67 L89, but also a '68 L88 Convertible. (Both are sitting next to a '63 Z06.) He's a very nice guy and a Chevy fanatic (also owns Camaros, Impalas, Bel Airs, a hi-po Chevelle.)
Seattle got many of the highest hp muscle cars, because racing has always been big out here. My father-in-law almost bought new in 1970 one of the 14 original Hemi Cuda convertibles off a show-room floor.
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (sammyb)
I bought a car from Roger once. It was everything he said. Sold it a few years later for a few dollars less than I paid Roger.
He does not have junk. Every car is excellent!
He does not have junk. Every car is excellent!
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (OHSIXX)
Yes it is definitely a real L88. Roger IMHO may not have the largest Corvette collection but it is the one I would want to have if I had the money. :cool:
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (OHSIXX)
$640,000 for a non original motor car ?
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (MotorHead)
$640,000 for a non original motor car ?
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (Robert N)
I want it :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (MotorHead)
$640,000 for a non original motor car ?
Exactly what I was thinking. I guess I never will completely understand this "all original" thing.
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (LAvetteman)
Once you learn the rules....They change them.
There were articles in two Vette magazines last year. Said that NCRS will not deduct any points now for a NOM if it is the correct engine and has been restamped with the correct numbers.
:skep: :skep:
There were articles in two Vette magazines last year. Said that NCRS will not deduct any points now for a NOM if it is the correct engine and has been restamped with the correct numbers.
:skep: :skep:
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (bamavettes)
Really!!! I did not know that.
Kind of unfair to the poor guys who have worked hard to keep the original numbers matching motors all these years, IMO.
Kind of unfair to the poor guys who have worked hard to keep the original numbers matching motors all these years, IMO.
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (LAvetteman)
Crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what ever floats your boat! cool car but not for that much :lolg:
what ever floats your boat! cool car but not for that much :lolg:
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (phrogs)
The scary thing is that Pro-Team Corvette defines "numbers matching" as only the same casting number on the engine...not the serial numbers, not even the casting numbers on the heads or tranny!!!
My in-laws visited Pro-Team two weeks ago and brought back a stock list and newsletter, and that's how they define it!!!
They even go so far as to say "buy the best looking car you can afford, because it's easy and less expensive to replace worn components with numbers matching mechanicals."
Can you believe this!?!?!?!
My in-laws visited Pro-Team two weeks ago and brought back a stock list and newsletter, and that's how they define it!!!
They even go so far as to say "buy the best looking car you can afford, because it's easy and less expensive to replace worn components with numbers matching mechanicals."
Can you believe this!?!?!?!
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (RATT7)
hey sammyb I like the way you slid the Porsche behind the divider in the garage
I would LOVE to own this Corvette 1 of 20
:party:
I would LOVE to own this Corvette 1 of 20
:party:
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL
I saw the L-88 in question go through the auction at Bloomington Gold this year... Roger Judski's winning bid was $615,000. I guess that with all the added auction fees and such, the final price could have been up around the $640,000 figure that is being quoted. Very odd action on this car when it went through the auction... Those who were in attendance would probably agree.
As noted, Roger Judski also owns the very famous Daytona yellow 1969 ZL-1 Corvette as well as a 1968 L-88, and at least one other 1967 L-88 (I heard that he may own a third 1967 L-88 as well, but I can't confirm this). He's a diehard Corvette fanatic and really enjoys the cars... Glad to see that it was purchased by such a person.
I don't know... It seems to follow the rules pretty well from what I see.
This same Corvette, if it was a completely unrestored, original engine/matching number driveline car, would certainly bring the million dollars that the former owners were hoping for. As it was, the car sold for substantially less than that... Due entirely to the engine and chassis issues.
The current rules of resale hold true for the majority of Corvettes that sell for $20,000 and up... This one just happens to be over a half million dollars... It's all relative. :)
NCRS's stand on the matter has always been that a car restored with a correct replacement engine that is undetectable from a typical factory produced/stamped example, will receive full credit during judging. This isn't something new... It's been that way for as long as I've been a member. Locating a suitable block with a correct casting number and date is relatively easy... Such an engine also capable of garnering enough points for a car to attain NCRS's highest award (provided the rest of the car is close to perfect) even without any of the stamp pad information present. As far as restamping engines, it's not as easy as most people think... Good luck finding one of the handful of people in this country who can actually do it correctly.
NCRS does not advocate creating a car that originally wasn't... Such as taking a base engine car and restoring it as an L-71 or L-88. People perpetrating fraud aren't looked upon too kindly in any organization.
Regards,
As noted, Roger Judski also owns the very famous Daytona yellow 1969 ZL-1 Corvette as well as a 1968 L-88, and at least one other 1967 L-88 (I heard that he may own a third 1967 L-88 as well, but I can't confirm this). He's a diehard Corvette fanatic and really enjoys the cars... Glad to see that it was purchased by such a person.
Once you learn the rules....They change them.
This same Corvette, if it was a completely unrestored, original engine/matching number driveline car, would certainly bring the million dollars that the former owners were hoping for. As it was, the car sold for substantially less than that... Due entirely to the engine and chassis issues.
The current rules of resale hold true for the majority of Corvettes that sell for $20,000 and up... This one just happens to be over a half million dollars... It's all relative. :)
There were articles in two Vette magazines last year. Said that NCRS will not deduct any points now for a NOM if it is the correct engine and has been restamped with the correct numbers.
NCRS does not advocate creating a car that originally wasn't... Such as taking a base engine car and restoring it as an L-71 or L-88. People perpetrating fraud aren't looked upon too kindly in any organization.
Regards,
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Re: Rogers Corvette L88 - Is this car REAL (RATT7)
Remember it's NOT a NOM. This may help... Corvette Repair in NY is restoring a '67 L88 1 of 3 with the NOM engine. http://www.corvetterepair.com/67_L88.htm
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