battsup

Whats so good about a hurst poopiefter?

bigblockbob

you know i have always wanted to kniow this, they look cool :confused: or is the name waht counts :confused: ... :(

Ak. Mal

My car already had one in it when I bought it, so I can't answer your question.

I want to make a custom shifter that is a little shorter and has a bend in it about 2/3 the way up and tilts back at about 30 degrees, cause I don't like the position of the Hurst in there now.

Captain Morgan

The Hurst Competition shifter? One benefit that I know of is that it has a spring to pull it over to the 3-4 area. Supposedly it's a lot smoother than the stock shifter. I knew a guy out in Utah that kept telling me I needed to get rid of my stock shifter and get a Hurst, and he told me I should drive his vette to see the difference. I never did. However, you can also get a stock style handle (which he had) that will fit the Hurst shifter. I know Mid America carries them, and I'm sure other suppliers carry them as well.

ACECO

:lolg: :lolg: :lolg: :lolg:

Now that's a great typo!!! :yesnod:

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Classicvette63

My '63 had a hurst shifter and my stepdad's '66 had a stock unit, so I could and have driven them on the same day. The difference? Like night and day is not a strong enough description. Like the difference between Minnie Pearl and Minnie Driver. :lol: The hurst is far superior. As soon as hurst comes out with a shifter for the richmond 6spd, I'll have one again. Classic

Larry B.

The biggest difference is that the Hurst unit mounts on the tailshaft of the transmission whereas the Muncie shifter mounts on a bracket attached to the crossmember. So... the shifter is on one side of the trans mount which is RUBBER and the trans is on the other. This is not a stable set-up. Plus... the shifter itself is totally different in the way it works. The Hurst is spring loaded to the right plus it has positive overtravel stops and the throw is noticably shorter. Hurst is a must for any kind of performance driving. I took my Hurst out and put back the stock unit for restoration reasons and I don't race my car. I miss the preciseness of the Hurst.

Captain Morgan

Looks like the above two responses agree with each other. They also coincide with what my friend out in Utah said about the Hurst. I'll probably get one someday, just saving money for other parts, etc. right now.

thevetterisbetter

Plus, they say because the Hurst is mounted to the transmission and not the frame, it twists with the Transmission what little the tranny twists, I am not sure if this is true, but it's what I heard.

smoothsailing

If I'm hearing this right the Hurst kit is worth the higer price? My 79 needs a shifter kit, not sure what to put in it. The car has an L48 with headers. Don't race it but do like to step on it now and again. So the Hurst setup will improve "power shifting"?

battsup

what is "power shifting"? is this when you shift gears without pressing the clutching?

corvtt1969

shifting without pushing the clutch?? :eek:

Rottenrob

at the right rpm it practically shifts itself without the clutch :chevy


[Modified by Rottenrob, 8:01 PM 1/24/2004]

Captain Morgan

Yep, truckers do it all the time. It takes a bit of practice, but it is possible.

To answer battsup's question, if I remember right, power shifting is done by keeping the engine rpm up when shifting. You don't want to keep the gas to the floor, but you don't want to lift off the gas too much when you shift. You want the rpm's to stay the same when you shift. At least that's what I remember the explanation being when I asked the question a couple years ago.


[Modified by Captain Morgan, 12:20 AM 1/25/2004]

Gordonm

Shifting without the clutch at all under full throttle will certainly destroy a Muncie in short order. If the Muncie is setup correctly you can do this but expect to replace parts after a season of thrashing. The last description is right on. Lift off the gas enough so the rpms don't increase or decrease and shift fast and release the clutch. You should not here the engine rpms drop until you release the clutch. This is easier on parts and will still produce good trap times. You can still wear out and crash syncros doing this. I have experience in this. Unless a transmission is setup for full throttle no clutch shifts you will break some parts.

Captain Morgan

Just to clarify, I don't shift without using the clutch, just stating that it's possible at the right RPM. I can't imagine trying to shift without using the clutch at full throttle.

By the way, my second gear synchros are starting to go. Ocassionally, I'll grind second with the clutch fully depressed. Because of this, I have not, and do not plan on going drag racing until it's fixed. I have a lot of plans for the vette, but I'm trying to save some money and take my time. So I won't be thrashing on it anytime soon.

battsup

I wasn't planning on shiftin without the clutch, just wondering what it was called cuz kids at skool do it :nono:

wayne_69_427

The bigest plus is the stop it prevents damage to the linkage and trans from allowing to much travel. Its a much more positive and shorter shift. One note though when they are first put in the car they are real stif the need a little break in period.