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Old 12-19-2016, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful
Also, I think the Motion cars were guaranteed to run in the 12's or you could get your money back.
At least 11.50s at a buck 20 - that's Phase III
Old 12-22-2016, 08:06 AM
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Questionable paperwork gents...

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...car#Post683728
Old 12-22-2016, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DBanks
They are not showing much in the way of documents but I have absolutely no doubt this is the same car that was pictured in the 1970 CARS magazine articles. I've known about the car LONG before it was restored and remember when Rosen became aware of it. At the time the car was painted blue. This was in the 90s.

I know people don't like the look. I happen to like these cars, as they are more than just customs. These were factory warranteed, dealer invoiced, over the top street cars.
Old 12-22-2016, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ed427vette
They are not showing much in the way of documents but I have absolutely no doubt this is the same car that was pictured in the 1970 CARS magazine articles. I've known about the car LONG before it was restored and remember when Rosen became aware of it. At the time the car was painted blue. This was in the 90s.

I know people don't like the look. I happen to like these cars, as they are more than just customs. These were factory warranteed, dealer invoiced, over the top street cars.
I love these cars too. I also have one of the largest, if not the single largest collection of Motion Performance memorabilia on the planet. One other collection I know of is larger. Being said, if Joel doesn't sign off the car, these anecdotal stories while are good for story sharing, really don't hold much weight. I want nothing more than for this thing to be real but if it were, and if it were blessed/signed off on, one of the collectors into the BM and MP cars would have ****** it up in a heartbeat.

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Old 12-30-2016, 02:56 PM
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Old 12-30-2016, 07:14 PM
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stance looks so high
Old 01-01-2017, 09:16 AM
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Not one of the sexist designs, in my opinion, but I am sure there are people who love it.
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Originally Posted by DBanks
Just because a single poster on another thread posts "check paperwork"?
Old 01-01-2017, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TA
Just because a single poster on another thread posts "check paperwork"?
Well, the NCRS shipper report does say Baldwin. That's pretty solid. The car has been around a very long time. For it to be a "clone" the cloner would have had to known it was a Baldwin invoiced car. That would have been long before the NCRS provided this service. And without the tank sticker (which I didn't see) and other factory paperwork, that would have been hard to determine if not impossible.

Prior to the 1970s CARS magazines nobody really knew of this car until it was shown again in the April 1992 Vette article about the GT cars. The car matches in most every way with the only mistake being the most recent way the car was painted (the stripe shape) and no headlight covers. For someone to have made up this car with the few available pictures of the car and get most of the details correct is not impossible, but unlikely. And when the car was "reintroduced" it was not painted gold.
Old 01-01-2017, 06:02 PM
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Not my cup of tea, a waste of a nice C3 imho
Old 01-04-2017, 07:07 AM
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Certainly unique look, a mean street machine.
Where are the other 9 of 10? Are they gold, too?
Old 09-26-2018, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ed427vette
I built this model almost 25 years ago.
Its not that great but it was fun to build.



WOW !!! LOVE THIS !!!!, Great job !!!, Joe
Old 09-26-2018, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo
Baldwin Motion Motors didn't endure. Cool car no less. Looks like a Datsun 240z with those headlight covers.
I know that I'm quoting an old post, here, but hopefully, people realized that it was the EPA, who issued a "cease and desist" order, that shut down Motion Motors, right?? Motion Motors was taking brand new, smog compliant Chevrolets, and modifying them for higher levels of performance, and in many cases, disabling the smog equipment in the process, then still selling them as "new cars", through Baldwin Chevrolet. The Government didn't like that....
Old 09-27-2018, 09:24 AM
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Worth a hell of a lot more than 75k! Id insure it and drive the wheels off that thing..
Surprised "real" C3 buffs talk smack about an iconic car like this. Maybe 190hp is enough for some.

Put a front tire with a shorter sidewall it would look great!

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Old 09-28-2018, 12:07 AM
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i believe it sold last year at mecum for 105k. I was looking at it as it was waiting in line before entering the auction building. I was surprised it went so low. i bet the guy bought it low and is just reselling it.
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It is well known in the MP/BM circles that this Corvette has paperwork issues. There is good reason why a 1-10 Phase III GT Corvette only brought $105k at recently auction and not $500k+ like most others would bring. Key for all BM/MP cars is paperwork. Without Rosen's sign off, it is just a figment of imagination.
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Old 10-02-2018, 09:26 AM
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I am building my 69 as a motion tribute, taking the pieces I like. I like the reverse gills, the hood, paint scheme. I don’t care for the GT front end or scoops behind the doors. Besides mine is a convertible which I dont think he ever did?? Wondering if anyone knows if anyone makes some of the stickers and trim used in motion cars? Some people are purists, some like to create their own vision and others like to blend. Great thing about building cars!! Also couple of questions for people who have seen these cars or mock ups of them. How wide should the back stripe be? I’m thinking of putting the ‘427’ on the rear quarters like the phase III. Also got a motion hood from a woman in Long Island who had it on her 71. She said her husband bought it local in 71 or 72 and had it on the car since. She put the original hood back on when selling. I know and dont care much if it is an original motion hood but wondering if the front of the scoop was/should be open? I’ve seen pictures of both. I’mn Thinking if I keep it closed cowl induction would work better and keep debris out of air filter/engine bay. Thoughts?
Old 10-03-2018, 06:28 AM
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I always liked the BM scheme but never thought much of the headlight conversion. This is my C5


A little tribute to the past

I havent seen this scheme on any other C5's


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