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Old 06-29-2012, 07:37 AM
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Can anyone help. My local GM mechanic can't seem to stop oil leak on my C4 with L98 engine. I had engine resealed the intake manifold done twice,distributer seal replaced,oil sensor resealed. I am into $3k and no better than when I started. Thanks Captainricks
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Maybe its not your intake leaking, could be the oil sender leaking if the oil is coming from the back of engine...Or if it is the intake leaking it sounds like you could use a new mechanic...WW
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Maybe its not your intake leaking, could be the oil sender leaking if the oil is coming from the back of engine...Or if it is the intake leaking it sounds like you could use a new mechanic...WW
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Tell him to use some dye...
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Originally Posted by captainricks
Can anyone help. My local GM mechanic can't seem to stop oil leak on my C4 with L98 engine. I had engine resealed the intake manifold done twice,distributer seal replaced,oil sensor resealed. I am into $3k and no better than when I started. Thanks Captainricks
If it still leaks, why are you paying? If they didn't fix it, you don't pay again for the same repair a second time

Like another poster mentioned...you need a new mechanic and I'd demand my money back. $3k (even if you paid twice for the intake) is
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I would agree with speedjester. Using a uv dye, or blacklight dye in the oil can help locate small leaks. Especially if they are in the back side of the engine where it is difficult to see the leak location.

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If it still leaks, why are you paying? If they didn't fix it, you don't pay again for the same repair a second time

Like another poster mentioned...you need a new mechanic and I'd demand my money back. $3k (even if you paid twice for the intake) is
- one problem with most shops is everybody's in a frickin hurry. the mindset is, get it done as fast as they can, minimum effort/maximum money, collect the cash, and move on. to repair or reseal an intake manifold with silicon at the front and rear sealing surfaces correctly and by the book, all surfaces have to be squeaky clean, and the RTV silicon has to cure for 24 hours before running the engine. how many shops are willing to have your car sitting around for a full 24 hour period - NONE! one myth about RTV is engine heat will fast cure the stuff - WRONG!!! if your intake is still leaking, i'd demand my money back, or have it repaired by the book. a frickin' mechanic that can't stop an oil leak - especially a non-pressurized leak isn't worth his weight in dog-poop!!!
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
If it still leaks, why are you paying? If they didn't fix it, you don't pay again for the same repair a second time

Like another poster mentioned...you need a new mechanic and I'd demand my money back. $3k (even if you paid twice for the intake) is
I agree I am not a mechanic. Don't know how to get my money back. The mechanic seems to have another reason why it leaks. The latest was someone had put two Pvc valves on the engine this caused the gaskets to be sucked in. Is this possible? Captainricks
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The latest was someone had put two Pvc valves on the engine this caused the gaskets to be sucked in. Is this possible? Captainricks
If a gasket was "sucked in", it'd be pretty obvious where the leak was...not to mention the Deepwater Horizon sized oil leak and likely engine fire from the oil hitting one of the manifolds. If there were two PCV valves installed, the hack job should be pretty easy to see and any marginal mechanic would have spotted it when they opened the hood....not to mention when they were re-installing the intake....TWICE! Good grief...

Hopefully you paid with a credit card. First tell the....ahem...."mechanic" that you expect a refund for the...ahem..."repairs" that obviously weren't repairs. If they chose to not refund your money, then call your credit card company.

Now get the car the h*ll out of there and take it to another shop. This SOB is going to drain your bank account of more money than the car is worth over a lousy oil leak.

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Old 06-29-2012, 07:55 PM
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I'll quadruple the new mechanic suggestion.
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Originally Posted by WW7
Maybe its not your intake leaking, could be the oil sender leaking if the oil is coming from the back of engine...Or if it is the intake leaking it sounds like you could use a new mechanic...WW
Old 06-29-2012, 08:08 PM
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I got some bad news, you don't have a "mechanic" you have a scam artist. Take some rags & some Simple Green and clean the area where it is wet, drive the car a few minutes then look at the area you cleaned. The source of the leak may be easy to see this way and you don't have to be a mechanic. Once you know where the leak is take it to a real mechanic & tell him what needs fixing.
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OMG def time for a new mechanic. Dealerships fired all the good mechanics and cut labor times in the early 90s. Now all you have is young guys that cant do anything a can tool cant find for them. guess what cant be found with a scan tool..that's right and oil leak.

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Now all you have is young guys that cant do anything a can tool cant find for them. guess what cant be found with a scan tool..that's right and oil leak.
SO TRUE!

Noone thats really good will work for the kiddie wages they pay "mechanics" these days. They either got their own shop or moved on to something else.

Majority of mechanics these days just throw parts at these EFI cars and guess, hoping they will get it right the first time-at YOUR expense. Heck we can do that for free. lol

He did not properly diagnose or fix the problem GO get your money back.
Dont listen to it needed all these things..if he really knew he would have fixed the offending leak.

Call Bureau of Automotive Repair, BBB etc. Take a stand or get walked all over sucks but thats the way it is these days.
Old 06-30-2012, 10:54 AM
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Finding and fixing an engine oil leak on a SBC is not Rocket Science. Sealing The "china wall" has been a major problem since 1955. I've had great results with "The RIGHT STUFF" it will seal your china wall and make it leak free with minimal prep.

The valve covers, engine oil sensors, front/rear main seals, distributor gasket, and oil filter adaptor are other known "leakers"

Have you considered that your vette is not leaking, but that it's MARKING ITS SPOT?

As for spending 3k on sealing an engine leak.... ****,thats ported heads/intake money ... or Stall and tranny upgrade money... or if you're a Federal Agent Columbian Hooker money. In any case I hope you recieved a kiss afterwards because you just had sex......
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Take it to someone with a smoke machine, easiest and fastest way to find a leak.
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hey captain, I had a leak problem too. I rounded up the usual suspects but the real big offender was the o-ring that seals the oil cooler to the block ABOVE the oil filter. I hear it is often overlooked and hard to spot as the culprit. good luck with your quest, I know how you feel! dd

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Old 07-25-2012, 09:47 AM
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I just discovered oil leaking on my 1996 LT1. Took it to mechanic and they couldn't determine where it's coming from. Most of the oil and residue is in front of and above the oil pan. Their best guess is the intake manifold. No oil appears to be leaking from the valve covers and can't see any leaks from above, only from underneath. The oil pan is not leaking. My plan is to clean off the oil and use dye to determine the source of the leak and consider fixing myself. I'm looking for any suggestions. Thanks!
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Dye works great.. Just make sure you clean everything real good add the dye.. And check it repeatedly to catch the leak quick.. Otherwise the dye gets everywhere and you need to start all over...
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Originally Posted by daddog
hey captain, I had a leak problem too. I rounded up the usual suspects but the real big offender was the o-ring that seals the oil cooler to the block ABOVE the oil filter. I hear it is often overlooked and hard to spot as the culprit. good luck with your quest, I know how you feel! dd
I found one of my lines to the oil cooler leaking after thinking it was the valve covers or sender. It was an easy fix and cost next to nothing.


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