1989 C4 will not start - Security will not reset
#1
1989 C4 will not start - Security will not reset
Just got my 1989 Corvette Friday. Now the car will not start. The security light keeps flashing. How do you reset security? Is there a way to turn it off? Could it be a bad chip in the key? I was only given one set of keys. Waited sever minute with key turned on. Locked and unlocked the door like the manual stated. Any ideas?
#2
Le Mans Master
Sometimes the contacts on the chip get dirty. Clean off both sides with alcohol or a pencil eraser.
I think the security light flashes just to remind you to activate the system. You may just have a bad battery connection. Good luck.
I think the security light flashes just to remind you to activate the system. You may just have a bad battery connection. Good luck.
Last edited by johnnymo63; 10-07-2013 at 11:34 AM.
#3
Race Director
A flashing security lamp usually means its not reading the vats chip in the key, or either the information is not getting to the computer. As Johnnymo said make sure the key is clean and dry. Remember you must wait appox. 5 minutes before retry to reset the error.
#4
In my 88 the security light flashes to remind me its not set. As soon as I lock the doors with the switch the light goes solid. I don't think the security light flashing means there's a problem or its active. I'll have to check the FSM though.
#5
Safety Car
#6
#7
Thanks to all who replied. An update. This Corvette was sitting in a climate controlled garage for 7 years. Has only 43K miles. Great for an 89. The paint is original and fantastic for black. The interior is in good shape. What we found out:
Replaced the fuel filter, fuel pump, cleaned throttle body. Cleaned fuel injectors. Changed oil. Flushed radiator and replaced the radiator cap. Sometimes the car starts sometimes it does not. When it does not, we just prime it with carb cleaner and it starts right up. I drove it for 90 minutes today mostly highway. In the begining it was running rough. The more I drove the better it ran. It is an automatic. Going from second to third is sluggish. Once on the highway the car cruzed great at 75 and felt like it could do a lot more.
I am now thinking that there is a lot of carbon deposits that need to be blown out and might take a couple of tanks with good premium gasoline (no ethynol). My other thought is that it may require replacing the Engine Control Module. Everything else works fine on this car and it is a looker. I think it will be a nice little roadster once we get it road worthy again. My only concern is if this C4 becomes a money pit.
Replaced the fuel filter, fuel pump, cleaned throttle body. Cleaned fuel injectors. Changed oil. Flushed radiator and replaced the radiator cap. Sometimes the car starts sometimes it does not. When it does not, we just prime it with carb cleaner and it starts right up. I drove it for 90 minutes today mostly highway. In the begining it was running rough. The more I drove the better it ran. It is an automatic. Going from second to third is sluggish. Once on the highway the car cruzed great at 75 and felt like it could do a lot more.
I am now thinking that there is a lot of carbon deposits that need to be blown out and might take a couple of tanks with good premium gasoline (no ethynol). My other thought is that it may require replacing the Engine Control Module. Everything else works fine on this car and it is a looker. I think it will be a nice little roadster once we get it road worthy again. My only concern is if this C4 becomes a money pit.
#8
1st thing to do would be to pull the engine fault codes and see if anything present
See
http://www.corvettephotographs.com/c4vettes/codes.htm
#9
Here is what my 88 FSM states:
No Crank, ECM code 46 present -Test lock cylinder and harness, test decoder module.
Crank but no start, ECM code 46 present - ECM enable test
No crank, no ECM code 46 - Test starter enable relay
Crank but no start, no ECM code 46 - Refer to section 6E
Then it has 4-1/2 pages of test procedure. If you don't have an FSM, get a set. And vetteoz, you're right, the Forced Entry Alarm is separate from the Vehicle Anti Theft System.
No Crank, ECM code 46 present -Test lock cylinder and harness, test decoder module.
Crank but no start, ECM code 46 present - ECM enable test
No crank, no ECM code 46 - Test starter enable relay
Crank but no start, no ECM code 46 - Refer to section 6E
Then it has 4-1/2 pages of test procedure. If you don't have an FSM, get a set. And vetteoz, you're right, the Forced Entry Alarm is separate from the Vehicle Anti Theft System.
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#10
Race Director
The SECURITY light is operated by what GM calls the UTD (Universal Theft Deterrent) system. Most people call it TDS (Theft Deterrent System). That's the one that honks the horn if the door is opened while it's armed. You can arm the system with the door open but you must shut the door within 45 - 60 seconds or the horn will honk.
The SECURITY light will flash if the door is open, the ignition is off and the TDS is NOT armed.
The SECURITY light will be on solid if the door is open, the ignition is off and the TDS IS armed.
The SECURITY light will go off if you close the door or turn on the ignition.
The SECURITY light will flash if the door is open, the ignition is off and the TDS is NOT armed.
The SECURITY light will be on solid if the door is open, the ignition is off and the TDS IS armed.
The SECURITY light will go off if you close the door or turn on the ignition.
#11
Le Mans Master
You need to get a can of "Sea-Foam" to put in your gas tank. That will clean out any contaminates in the fuel system really well.
#13
Safety Car
The SECURITY light is operated by what GM calls the UTD (Universal Theft Deterrent) system. Most people call it TDS (Theft Deterrent System). That's the one that honks the horn if the door is opened while it's armed. You can arm the system with the door open but you must shut the door within 45 - 60 seconds or the horn will honk.
The SECURITY light will flash if the door is open, the ignition is off and the TDS is NOT armed.
The SECURITY light will be on solid if the door is open, the ignition is off and the TDS IS armed.
The SECURITY light will go off if you close the door or turn on the ignition.
The SECURITY light will flash if the door is open, the ignition is off and the TDS is NOT armed.
The SECURITY light will be on solid if the door is open, the ignition is off and the TDS IS armed.
The SECURITY light will go off if you close the door or turn on the ignition.
What does constant flashing indicate when the vehicle is locked/parked?
#14
Race Director
The TDS wiring connections are shown on page 8A-133-0 in my '86 FSM. They are probably in the same section in other years. In my car the TDS module is taped to a wiring harness near the ECM. In earlier years it was located where the VATS module is now.