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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 10:52 PM
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hahahahah. Stay on topic.
Says the off topic troll.
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I don't even have an eye towards speeding but rather just want to avoid police
This^.

I know that there is NO WAY, C4.Ray has a snow ***** chance in hell of "getting it", but some times, a detector is not about "speeding"...at all. Sometimes it's about situational awareness, and that is all. I've been pulled over for not speeding, several times. Many times actually, when I lived back east. I had a friend back east, that was pulled over (literally) for going the exact speed limit.

So for some people, know who and what is around you, is the point. No one brought up speeding, I believe, except "holier than thou" C4.Ray. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
This^.

I know that there is NO WAY, C4.Ray has a snow ***** chance in hell of "getting it", but some times, a detector is not about "speeding"...at all. Sometimes it's about situational awareness, and that is all. I've been pulled over for not speeding, several times. Many times actually, when I lived back east. I had a friend back east, that was pulled over (literally) for going the exact speed limit.

So for some people, know who and what is around you, is the point. No one brought up speeding, I believe, except "holier than thou" C4.Ray. Interesting.
Exactly!!! Certainly no one said it was a "speed with impunity" device. There is no such thing. But my five senses can use all the help available when it comes to avoiding the speed tax lottery.

I can, of course, see-and-avoid deer on the backroads of SC, but I still have an electronic amplified deer alert attached to my fog light switch.

A little red Corvette is like red meat to a LEO.

Laser jammer recommendations, anyone?

Oh, and Ray who? Never hear from the guy.
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I think if we are looking to be honest, we are looking to know when to reduce speed. If you want to talk situation awareness, sure. One of the small roles, I agree. IMO the bulk of the detection unit's job is to help us know when the pack leader of the speeding column has been tagged so we can slow down. Who are we kidding? You didn't buy this car with an 80 HP engine.
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Originally Posted by Renfield
I can, of course, see-and-avoid deer on the backroads of SC, but I still have an electronic amplified deer alert attached to my fog light switch.
http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/deerw.html

Not sure if it would work
Old Feb 21, 2016 | 08:14 AM
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I think if we are looking to be honest, we are looking to know when to reduce speed. If you want to talk situation awareness, sure. One of the small roles, I agree. IMO the bulk of the detection unit's job is to help us know when the pack leader of the speeding column has been tagged so we can slow down. Who are we kidding? You didn't buy this car with an 80 HP engine.
IIRC my Miata is 90 RWHP. I can assure you, it goes fast enough to get a ticket.

Last one cost me the price of a V-1.
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Originally Posted by aklim
http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/deerw.html

Not sure if it would work
The passive ones don't. I went with this.
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Originally Posted by Renfield
Exactly!!! Certainly no one said it was a "speed with impunity" device. There is no such thing. But my five senses can use all the help available when it comes to avoiding the speed tax lottery.

I can, of course, see-and-avoid deer on the backroads of SC, but I still have an electronic amplified deer alert attached to my fog light switch.

A little red Corvette is like red meat to a LEO.

Laser jammer recommendations, anyone?
Antilaser Priority is the best jammer on the market.
http://www.antilaser.ca/al-priority/
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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimnc
Antilaser Priority is the best jammer on the market.
http://www.antilaser.ca/al-priority/
Thank you for that link. Very volatile industry behind this laser thing. Sounds like Algorithm and blues in there.

After reading this I may stick with the V-1.

I don't even keep my computer up to date, so keeping up with firmware follies wouldn't be reliable.

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Originally Posted by Renfield
Thank you for that link. Very volatile industry behind this laser thing. Sounds like Algorithm and blues in there.

After reading this I may stick with the V-1.

I don't even keep my computer up to date, so keeping up with firmware follies wouldn't be reliable.

In my experience LIDAR is rare in NC and SC. Very common in GA and especially the Atlanta area. 95% of my driving is in the Carolinas so I don't see a laser jammer to be worth the money.
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Originally Posted by Renfield
IIRC my Miata is 90 RWHP. I can assure you, it goes fast enough to get a ticket.

Last one cost me the price of a V-1.
It is about 1000# lighter isn't it? Can't remember. Regardless, I suspect our C4 with a 90 Crank motor can get us a ticket. Eventually but either way, it is fast enough for a road car. Point is, we got the Vette because it was a fast car. 2 Vettes side by side, I wouldn't waste my money getting whichever one had the 100HP motor, all else equal.

I'm sure it cost you more once you figure out the insurance points, etc, etc. Especially if you are 1 3 point ticket away from license suspension. Like I said, it gives you warning of a cop that is scanning someone who is heading the pack. If the officer draws a bead on you with the gun, NFW is anything short of a lightning bolt onto the squad car going to help you.
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Originally Posted by Renfield
The passive ones don't. I went with this.
I did take a peek at their site and other sites of that nature. A lot of anecdotal stuff like "Since I installed it, I didn't hit a deer". That is about as good as "Since I got married in 1990, I haven't hit deer. Therefore, marriage is a deer deterrent.". My favorite is to get a bloody USED tampon as a deer attractant. I knew a bunch of die hard users that swore by it.
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Originally Posted by Jimnc
Antilaser Priority is the best jammer on the market.
http://www.antilaser.ca/al-priority/
But is there any properly done test that proves it works? Back in the 90s it was told that you wrap a copper wire around a fluorescent tube and you can jam radar. We tried loosely wrapped to tightly wrapped and several densities in between. Not a one prevented anything.
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Originally Posted by Renfield
Thank you for that link. Very volatile industry behind this laser thing. Sounds like Algorithm and blues in there.

After reading this I may stick with the V-1.

I don't even keep my computer up to date, so keeping up with firmware follies wouldn't be reliable.

My only problem is I have to take the dash apart to find a power source I can run power thru and around the dash.
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Do what you all wish .... All I'm saying is with all the cell phones, highway video cameras and the ever increasingly big brother state our country has become, you can't escape it. The police are everywhere. And speed simply kills.

If you live in the sticks in Montana, then yes, the RD will be beneficial ....

Anywhere else, a waste of $$$.

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Originally Posted by C4.Ray
Do what you all wish .... All I'm saying is with all the cell phones, highway video cameras and the ever increasingly big brother state our country has become, you can't escape it. The police are everywhere. And speed simply kills.

If you live in the sticks in Montana, then yes, the RD will be beneficial ....

Anywhere else, a waste of $$$.
Thanks for your permission. That is a relief since without it, nobody would do as they wished.

You still haven't told me how to introduce cell phone video and pictures as evidence in a court for speeding. Can I take a video of my neighbor breaking the speed limit and get him a ticket he can't get out of? Please elaborate. Video camera. Care to explain how they get speed? AFAIK, if they use laser or radar, before the camera can get a valid picture, I should be able to detect it. Worst case, someone ahead of me trips it in time. Again, won't work every time but something is better than nothing.

Yes, speed increases the risk. If you are not prepared to risk, you should not have gotten a car over 100HP.

I don't live in the sticks of Montana but I have slowed down a few times in the past when I got a blip and there was Johnny Law. Care to explain that one?

Here's a thought. Give us something scientific and difficult to refute. What you have so far is conjecture, speculation, SWAG, etc.
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Originally Posted by C4.Ray
Do what you all wish .... All I'm saying is with all the cell phones, highway video cameras and the ever increasingly big brother state our country has become, you can't escape it. The police are everywhere. And speed simply kills.

If you live in the sticks in Montana, then yes, the RD will be beneficial ....

Anywhere else, a waste of $$$.
and nobody gives a crap what you think or say RayRay

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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 07:57 PM
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I never trust radar detectors.
Here is phrase I've learned, go as fast as you can afford!

I never drive like an *** with a passenger as you are putting their life in your hands.

If you are worried about daily commute then you know where they "hide" to collect their highway tax. Just note that they can clock you going in the opposite direction, and you cannot out run a radio.

I drive a lot in FL where it's long and straight with multiple turn arounds. I just set the cruise, sip my coffee, and wave to the 50. There is no joy in doing 100+ in a straight line.

If speed is your itch then hit up motorsportreg.com and find a track day. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than a ticket and insurance premium increase.

Drive smart, safe, and have fun!
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I just bough an Escort 9500ix off of Craigslist for $150 so I wouldn't have to keep swapping the one I had from car to car. Turn off the X and K bands(automatic door openers at shopping centers) and it really almost never falses.

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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 09:27 PM
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Not sure what type of Lidar units they use in the States, but up here in Canada if someone is using a jammer I get a special code telling me that.
Given that Laser is target specific, not hard to tell who is jamming the signal. Jammers are illegal here and if your caught using one you can end up in Court.

The only hope you have of detecting conventional radar is if someone up ahead of you gets beamed and you get a bounce signal. If the radar is being run properly, the beam isn't switched on until the officer has made his or her visual estimate and opens the beam for confirmation. By then it's too late for the speeder.

Also, a visual estimate and evidence as to the vehicles speed through traffic is admirable in court up here.

Most radar equipped police vehicles have front and rear antennae. Your speed can be detected in either direction, coming or going. It's called multi mode radar.

As far as the books they sell telling you how to beat a ticket in Court. You don't think we've read them and compiled our evidence and notes to cover off the defenses you might use. We give evidence in Court almost daily. How often do you give evidence?

As far as speed kills? I never worry about my driving. It's the other guy I worry about. Your flying down the highway above the posted speed limit and someone who didn't check their mirror changes lanes in front of you. Yes when it comes to blame you had the right of way and your right, but you could be dead right.

Don't think it happens? Just spend some time on you tube.



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