5 Reasons Why The C4 Corvette Is Worth It
01-21-2016, 07:56 AM
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Jess tweekin' PLRX a leetle...
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PLRX (01-21-2016)
01-21-2016, 09:34 AM
#42
Team Owner
What more do you need?
She's easily modified carrying the most mass produced engine of all time (The Gen 1 SBC), with the widest aftermarket imaginable for speed parts.
It just needs more pep, but otherwise drives like a modern sports car.
I've been an F Body, and Corvette guy since I could remember.
She's easily modified carrying the most mass produced engine of all time (The Gen 1 SBC), with the widest aftermarket imaginable for speed parts.
It just needs more pep, but otherwise drives like a modern sports car.
I've been an F Body, and Corvette guy since I could remember.
Not true. I am considering an LS swap simply because I find it harder and harder to get someone to tune the "old stuff". I can get an LS tune much easier than an L98 or even LT1.
It's an acceptable starting platform.
Biggest mistake I did was to buy a 91 F-body brand new. If I had any smarts back then in my early 20s, I'd have gone to auto classes and did my own maintenance instead of relying on a warranty that was getting more and more voided after you screw with the car. Not that it is GM's fault for not standing behind your screwing with it. When my F-body got smashed, I transplanted the motor and trans to a 91 Vette since that was the last year of the L98s and I had an L98 that was pushing 400HP
01-21-2016, 10:28 AM
#43
Melting Slicks
What has need got to do with anything? You don't need any Vette. You WANT it.
Not true. I am considering an LS swap simply because I find it harder and harder to get someone to tune the "old stuff". I can get an LS tune much easier than an L98 or even LT1.
It's an acceptable starting platform.
Biggest mistake I did was to buy a 91 F-body brand new. If I had any smarts back then in my early 20s, I'd have gone to auto classes and did my own maintenance instead of relying on a warranty that was getting more and more voided after you screw with the car. Not that it is GM's fault for not standing behind your screwing with it. When my F-body got smashed, I transplanted the motor and trans to a 91 Vette since that was the last year of the L98s and I had an L98 that was pushing 400HP
Not true. I am considering an LS swap simply because I find it harder and harder to get someone to tune the "old stuff". I can get an LS tune much easier than an L98 or even LT1.
It's an acceptable starting platform.
Biggest mistake I did was to buy a 91 F-body brand new. If I had any smarts back then in my early 20s, I'd have gone to auto classes and did my own maintenance instead of relying on a warranty that was getting more and more voided after you screw with the car. Not that it is GM's fault for not standing behind your screwing with it. When my F-body got smashed, I transplanted the motor and trans to a 91 Vette since that was the last year of the L98s and I had an L98 that was pushing 400HP
Holley, FIRST, FAST, and quite a few others, make ECMs that will easily control a fuel injected gen 1 engine. Many of them are even self tuning, and are damn near plug and play.
01-21-2016, 10:36 AM
#44
Team Owner
They make plenty of EFI upgrades computer wise for the SBC (not the LT1..cause no one wants to fool with making ECMs JUST for the Optispark.).
Holley, FIRST, FAST, and quite a few others, make ECMs that will easily control a fuel injected gen 1 engine. Many of them are even self tuning, and are damn near plug and play.
Holley, FIRST, FAST, and quite a few others, make ECMs that will easily control a fuel injected gen 1 engine. Many of them are even self tuning, and are damn near plug and play.
How adaptable are those systems and are they popular for tuners? I definitely will not tune my own but self tuning is ok to get me to the tuner which is why I ask if they will tune those systems or will they reject the assignment? Sure, we can build anything but if nobody wants to tune it, either you DIY or be willing to accept a self tuning option and wonder if the manufactur back pedaled a little off the top in cases of liability. I saw my tuner do it, tested, re-did it, tested till it started to fall off then he went to the previous tune and worked the rest of the curve and then re-test.
01-21-2016, 12:27 PM
#45
2nd Gear
01-21-2016, 03:41 PM
#46
Melting Slicks
If your wanting to go with an aftermarket computer I would use the megasquirt if it was me.
http://www.diyautotune.com/tech_arti...t1_lt4_l99.htm
Ive messed with several holley setups of late helping others and I do not care for them personally.
I was looking at putting a turbo on the Miata I bought my wife and ran across this :
After watching that I really want to get a chance to fool with one now. Seems like a nice setup.
http://www.diyautotune.com/tech_arti...t1_lt4_l99.htm
Ive messed with several holley setups of late helping others and I do not care for them personally.
I was looking at putting a turbo on the Miata I bought my wife and ran across this :
After watching that I really want to get a chance to fool with one now. Seems like a nice setup.
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H P Bushrod (01-22-2016)
01-22-2016, 01:58 PM
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01-22-2016, 02:33 PM
#50
Burning Brakes
01-22-2016, 08:19 PM
#53
Team Owner
It was a tragic mistake of nature. He was a woman trapped in a man's body. But now that is changed and he is a woman in a woman's body.
So..... How indecent would the proposal have to be to get any guy here to spend a night with Kaitlyn Jenner? IMO, it would be easier to find him a guy to make a lady out of him than to find a guy to spend a night with such a FUGLY woman.
So..... How indecent would the proposal have to be to get any guy here to spend a night with Kaitlyn Jenner? IMO, it would be easier to find him a guy to make a lady out of him than to find a guy to spend a night with such a FUGLY woman.
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95tealconvert (01-23-2016)
01-23-2016, 07:17 AM
#56
Team Owner
01-23-2016, 06:45 PM
#57
It was a tragic mistake of nature. He was a woman trapped in a man's body. But now that is changed and he is a woman in a woman's body.
So..... How indecent would the proposal have to be to get any guy here to spend a night with Kaitlyn Jenner? IMO, it would be easier to find him a guy to make a lady out of him than to find a guy to spend a night with such a FUGLY woman.
So..... How indecent would the proposal have to be to get any guy here to spend a night with Kaitlyn Jenner? IMO, it would be easier to find him a guy to make a lady out of him than to find a guy to spend a night with such a FUGLY woman.
01-23-2016, 07:44 PM
#59
Team Owner
01-25-2016, 04:45 PM
#60
Melting Slicks
My issue is when I talk to shops, less and less of them want to tune the "Old Stuff". I am not totally certain as to whether self tuning is going to be as good as a skilled tuner on a dyno. I accept it is "good enough" for most people but I tend to be more nit-picky which is why I want to dyno tune. That is about the reason why I am even considering an LS swap for the day when the engine breaks and nobody with a dyno wants to write programs for that "Old Stuff". Over the years, I see less people doing L98 tuning as opposed to the newer systems.
How adaptable are those systems and are they popular for tuners? I definitely will not tune my own but self tuning is ok to get me to the tuner which is why I ask if they will tune those systems or will they reject the assignment? Sure, we can build anything but if nobody wants to tune it, either you DIY or be willing to accept a self tuning option and wonder if the manufactur back pedaled a little off the top in cases of liability. I saw my tuner do it, tested, re-did it, tested till it started to fall off then he went to the previous tune and worked the rest of the curve and then re-test.
How adaptable are those systems and are they popular for tuners? I definitely will not tune my own but self tuning is ok to get me to the tuner which is why I ask if they will tune those systems or will they reject the assignment? Sure, we can build anything but if nobody wants to tune it, either you DIY or be willing to accept a self tuning option and wonder if the manufactur back pedaled a little off the top in cases of liability. I saw my tuner do it, tested, re-did it, tested till it started to fall off then he went to the previous tune and worked the rest of the curve and then re-test.
Most of the modern systems, can get pretty close to a dyno tune on their own, with little more than some basic inputs. Many of which already have baseline programs they change on the fly from my understanding.
They probably leave room on the table, but it's going to be vastly better than a stock tune trying to run a cam, stroker, heads etc etc etc, that's for sure.
http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/...g-efi-systems/
From the article
Anyone who thinks self-learning EFI is only viable for weenie-spec engine combos needs to think again. During the R&D process, FAST engineers tested a Chevrolet Performance 572 crate motor on the dyno using the XFI system, and extracted 630 hp from the big-block after two hours of tuning. After swapping it out for the EZ-EFI system, the self-learning ECU netted the same 630 hp in just two dyno pulls. "To tune the EZ-EFI system, all you have to do is drive the car. I can't explain it any simpler," says Brian Reese of FAST.
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