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Against our will and better judgement, we're intrigued by this C4 project.

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Tom400CFI

"Eliminating the troublesome Crossfire injection system"

Way to spread the negative, misinformation about the C4, "Forum Editor"!

c4cruiser

So buy it and learn something about Corvettes...

Raidmagic

Just because you like the cross fire and have one running good on a whole they were not very good. There is a reason they moved on from them so quickly.

Tom400CFI

Indeed...there certainly WAS a reason. The reason was not because they were "troublesome", however...which is what it says in that...ahem, "article". So, as I said...."misinformation", and yes, it IS also "negative". Nice try to spin that, though.


BTW, I don't have a CFI car anymore. However "on a whole", they ran pretty good. Good enough in fact that when they came out, they were the fastest car in America.



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Cool Runnings

I know someone who has owned a 84 for twenty years. I asked what kind of problems he's had and was told nothing other than the weather stripping needs replacement. Roof leaks if caught in the rain. Not bad for such a vintage Vette.

pologreen1

You win!! That is the best comment

1993C4LT1

The seats are out of a z31 300zx.

Tom400CFI

Really? They came stock w/Corbeau's ?

1993C4LT1

Yes, well only the Shiro Specials. Which were only in 1988 I believe.

1993C4LT1

My bad, they were Recaros. But still a very similar look

Tom400CFI

Indeed. When the Recaro's wear out in our snow cats, I replace then with Corbeau GTS II...which is virtually identical but about 1/3 the cost.


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Paul Workman

Yeah, but issues with it wasn't the reason for the "quick change". It, according to one of my Corvette coffee table books, was because negotiations with Bosch to expand their TPI from the 305 cid version (IROC Camaros) to the 350 cid (L98) version wasn't completed until it was too late for the '84 MY to be included. But, a deal was struck and the bigger TPI developed in time to install in the '85 MY Vette.

The "Crossfire" wasn't new - appearing on some big Chrysler and Ford products in the late 50's, IIRC. Torque vs. rpm was broader than the Bosch TPI, but not as peaky, as I recall.

Tom400CFI

That is true. The Cross ram intake is a nice, mid-length runner intake, similar to an HSR intake, but w/the runners laid down. This allows it a higher RPM range than the TPI with potential for more hp.

Chevy played w/the technology early on, too.

hcbph

This is a personal opinion: The cross-fire was much like the original Rochester FI. They worked and worked well, but when they didn't it was extremely difficult to find someone competent to work on them. I've read of one shop back in the early 60's that literally had a shelf full of Rochester FI's they had taken off customer cars and replaced with carb setups because they weren't able to get them working correctly. Think of what a shelf worth of those would be worth today!

Tom400CFI

I think that is probably true...in 1982/83/84. It was new/unfamiliar technology, to most mechanics. Looking back on it now, we realize that it is one of the most simple EFI systems made.

v8vette84

I agree with Tom400CFI. When my 84' had the factory Crossfire it never gave any fits. Granted I didn't keep the stock engine all that long but it still didn't give me any problems. On top of that I bought the car from a guy who clearly abused the car and didn't maintain it worth a crap. The Crossfire gets the same type of **** talk that the LT1 gets. Probably because both engines were fairly limited production. At least compares to other engines.