81c3

nope

92 was also a low production year with a sharp drop with 502 built. 90 was the highest and 91 second highest. Its a lower hp car, but very easy to get to 400 with exhaust work and PROM tuning...

Like I said, buy Heart of the Beast.... Youll want to go buy one when youre done reading it.

mark970

I didn't think so, Akim is messing with me again

aklim

I have seen someone put an auto into a manual and vice versa. So.....

96LT4

He's talking about sending it off to Haibeck or the likes...

427 convertible...best car of the C6 generation in my honest opinion.

Why?
427...505 horsepower stock, convertible, 6 speed, comfortable seats

Mine...did some mods: Heads, cam, tune, air box, exhaust...put down 540 to the wheels on a hot day, and sounds freaking bad ***!!! That's ZR1 power territory in a convertible that can be driven around town just as easy. That said, I wish the 427 had the same tranny/fly wheel as the ZR1...it's amazing the difference.

Tom400CFI

Are you talking about the '90's ZR-1 trans/FW? Or the '08^?

mark970

you dont have to convince me...if i had the money and this was my thread...it would be a C6. thats already on my list as "next newer Vette" (because I'm probably not done buying C4's yet haha) and i cant agree with you more...SEATS ARE IMPORTANT

96LT4

The C6 stuffs...I'm done with C4s.

Tom400CFI

Copy. I ask b/c I feel the ZF6 is way better than the T56 and thought that you might be talking about that.

What's the diff between the C6 Z06 trans and the C6 ZR1 trans? I know the ZR1 has a twin disk clutch...that was about all the diff I was aware of...

96LT4

I think that's it as well....it just feels like a completely different ride.

Tom400CFI

Copy that. Thanks for explaining/clarifying.

Paul Workman

AND...taking the subject of your avatar into account...all the "MO-BETTAH!"

Ah....thanks. I needed a good belly laugh!!

rudolph schenker

Paul Workman

No.

The bump in HP for the 93-95 ZR-1s was mitigated somewhat by added weight in the later years.
The LT5'd debut was for all its ground-breaking advancements and legacy, all but doomed by the US economy of the 90-91 period, far as developments went. But, if that wasn't enough, as Dave McLellan often puts it: The LT5 got GM Powertrain engineers off their hands (fiddling with the TPI motor) and built a motor with a significant horsepower increase. The economy, combined with the new LT1 put the nail in further LT5 production. And, we know the rest of the story.

Be that as it may, speed shops and racers around the country did pick up were lOTUS development of the gen-I LT5s left off. In short, impressive as it is, that gen-I & II LT5 was STARVING FOR AIR!! (*I'll get back to this) This fact was finally acknowledged at LOTUS in the form of the LT5 gen-III. It is a 5.7L, 540+ HP N/A beast intended for the 1996 ZR-1. However, the ZR-1 program was cancelled before it was introduced. But, can you imagine the ripples a 540 HP motor in only a 5.7L motor would have made to the 96 Grand Sport??

*Well, my point is, the key to over 500 HP doesn't require anything more than opening up the intake path and adding headers, exhaust tubing and a tune. The "magic formula" is pretty well known and has been so prevalent among ZR-1 enthusiasts for years now. Can't ignore "bolt-on" HP that gets you over 500 HP without any harm to drivability... Just sayin.

Stock C4-ZR-1 vs. base C6? ZR-1 every time. C6 Z06? Yeah, baby! I want one of dem too!

pologreen1

DON'T buy a c4 zr1 if you are a performance enthusiast.

They might be able to make 500hp with mods and add gears. By the time you do those mods you'll be blown away what you could have bought. IF you do those mods there goes the collection part of it.

IF you have to have a zr1 for performance why not be a cheap old beater and have it reworked?

OR IF you have to have a c4... Why not stick the money in to a base and have it be like 1200-1800 hp?

Newer is better. Older is cheaper.

Since you are a performance enthusiast what do you have done to your current c4?

I think for what it costs to build a zr1 to a measly 500hp you could buy a couple base c4's.

A built c5, or C6 makes sense.

Most people in here are not performance enthusiasts. That is why they talk about seat comfort, drone, rough rides, noisy gear boxes, etc. The same reason they started to tame the C4 from the factory rather than grow it. Corvette would have been way crazier by the zr1 time IF people would have let it be.

Can you answer these questions:
How much money you got for a car?
How radical of a car do you really want?
Do you want a car to say it is special or to say I have a fast car?
Have you test driven each?

You are comparing nothing but price in my eyes, and even then zr1s are all over the board in my eyes.

I wanted a zr1. I want it to have a 440ci. Not sensible to me in the end so I have a base with as few options as possible and then stripped it down too.

mark970

That was quite the read, thanks for taking the time to share all of that sold information!

I'm not a performance enthusiast, I was just wondering if that group of drivers cared of a ZR1 had the higher torque trans ZF or not. My C4's are stock other than cold air intake, exhaust and wheels. My days of beating the crap out of my car are long in the past, I'm just a cruiser now.

pologreen1

In a stock application blue tag /black tag won't matter. Blue tag is quieter, and only a little weaker.

They both can take more than ratings, but not for ever.

I'm sure the group cares. It's claim is to be stronger, noisier straight gear cut.

If there was only one trans to have they would not have a choice to care.

I replied that way, because you were being told of HP packages to build them to 500 hp.

It seems many people are content with a stockish mildly modified later model c4. They can still be a handful for people.

JasonAndrew

Low mileage C6 under $20k? I hardly believe that, unless low mileage is 90K miles.

Cool Runnings

2005 C6 Corvette. With only 71k miles, it is in great condition. I have always used Mobil 1 Fully Synthetic Oil every 3,000 miles. It is priced for a quick sell at $17,800.00 Firm.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ase-17-8k.html

Paul Workman

Won't fault anything you said . And, w/ regard to HP, it is far cheaper to build an LSx motor to crazy numbers, if that is the end goal (not to mention the C6 platform is far better on the track). And, for that reason, I hesitated to mention the "500" mod at all. But! If one chooses the iconic ZR-1 and later wanted to elbow his way to the bar to be recognized by the C6 Z06 boys, their IS a way of "having your cake and eating it too!"

Renfield

By all means, go off topic with politics. When you have nothing of value to contribute, you can always stir a can of worms.