Notices
C4 General Discussion General C4 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech

How many inch wheels without sticking out.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-23-2017, 03:26 PM
  #1  
bethundered
7th Gear
Thread Starter
 
bethundered's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2017
Posts: 7
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default How many inch wheels without sticking out.

A 1994 corvette c4 coupe has standard 8.5 inch front and 9.5 inch wheels on the back side.
How many inches can a c4 have without the wheels sticking out of the car?

Last edited by bethundered; 07-23-2017 at 05:07 PM.
Old 07-23-2017, 05:27 PM
  #2  
mark970
Drifting

 
mark970's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2017
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,310
Received 273 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

i have 18x10.5 (with a factory 56mm offset) on my 95 and they are smack dab right at the edge...they do stick out on the sides as the quarters roll back under (if i had better paint i would probably buy those cute little EXPENSIVE mud flaps).

and a pretty horrible video (that i def need to re-do)
Attached Images    

Last edited by mark970; 07-23-2017 at 05:30 PM.
The following users liked this post:
bethundered (07-24-2017)
Old 07-23-2017, 09:52 PM
  #3  
haxxx
Racer
 
haxxx's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2015
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 292
Received 40 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

I have 11s in the back and without changing anything they will technically stick out slightly. I remember doing the math and cambering the rear in about a half a degree with fit them in. It's only noticeable to me if you put something against the fender to measure so I left it as is.

The following users liked this post:
bethundered (07-24-2017)
Old 07-24-2017, 05:54 AM
  #4  
bethundered
7th Gear
Thread Starter
 
bethundered's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2017
Posts: 7
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Thanks for the feedback.

Thanks guys, I think I put 9 inch on the front and 10s on the rear of the car to be save.
Old 07-24-2017, 06:57 AM
  #5  
WVZR-1
Team Owner

 
WVZR-1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2003
Posts: 23,050
Received 2,255 Likes on 2,018 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by bethundered
Thanks guys, I think I put 9 inch on the front and 10s on the rear of the car to be save.
Regardless of 'width' you need to purchase correct 'offsets' you miight be wise to solicit more help from maybe your wheel source and then confirm here.

I'd maybe suggest that your choice for a 'driver' be a choice of something X 4 so you could potentially accomplish at least a front to rear rotate.
Old 07-24-2017, 08:25 AM
  #6  
bethundered
7th Gear
Thread Starter
 
bethundered's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2017
Posts: 7
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by WVZR-1
Regardless of 'width' you need to purchase correct 'offsets' you miight be wise to solicit more help from maybe your wheel source and then confirm here.

I'd maybe suggest that your choice for a 'driver' be a choice of something X 4 so you could potentially accomplish at least a front to rear rotate.
Thanks for the suggestion, that is exactly what I am going to do.
Old 07-24-2017, 10:02 AM
  #7  
mark970
Drifting

 
mark970's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2017
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,310
Received 273 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by WVZR-1
Regardless of 'width' you need to purchase correct 'offsets' you miight be wise to solicit more help from maybe your wheel source and then confirm here.

I'd maybe suggest that your choice for a 'driver' be a choice of something X 4 so you could potentially accomplish at least a front to rear rotate.
I spent a year researching and it does in fact take a plan....i chose the tires that i did so i could at the very least swap left to right (and that requires a non-directional tire...which Nitto's arent so i got Continentals) and it was important to me to keep the correct factory 56mm offset. i didnt want to go the 11" route that a lot take because well...its illegal unless i add wheel flares and I'm not into the redneck look. my 10.5" rears are the MAX i would go on mine...they are dead even with the crown of the quarters. I also got a Replica Corvette wheel so i kept it in the family (C5 is close enough right? haha)

not that you cant do all 4 corners, but you are probably going to end up with 9.5's all the way around and if I'm not mistaken thats not what your goal is...it's to go as wide as you can?? and as noted above, WVZR is making some solid points and i suppose some people actually do go 10.5 on the front but i think you run into issues, especially if you plan to lower your car...i am very much for the x4 approach and the ability to rotate (which could as much as double the life of the tire) but if the goal is to go "wide" then i dont think you will achieve that going x4.

i chose wider over x4 and can rotate left -to-right the only thing i needed to take into consideration after that was tire size (to keep the stance and the speedo the same). fyi your tires with a "factory" 8.5 front will be 25.94 OD all the way around the car, even though you have different rubber up front (Factory Good Years were 255/45 front and 285/40 rear with all 4 having a 25.94 outside diameter).

Last edited by mark970; 07-24-2017 at 10:42 AM.
Old 07-24-2017, 10:36 AM
  #8  
hcbph
Safety Car
 
hcbph's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2013
Location: Minneapolis Mn
Posts: 4,196
Received 526 Likes on 476 Posts

Default

This may be of interest to you: https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/

That was one of the sites I used when I was planning on upgrading tires and rims on my 86. Mine has a different offset, but once I had a possible size, I ran it through this site to confirm my choice. Then I went and talked to vendors to confirm all should fit as planned before laying down my $$. I also got the rims before the tires. If there's a problem, seems foolish to have tires but no rims to mount them to. in fact I had to go to multiple places before I found on that could actually get the rims I wanted.

Just some comments. Good luck.
The following 2 users liked this post by hcbph:
bethundered (07-24-2017), mark970 (07-24-2017)
Old 07-24-2017, 10:46 AM
  #9  
mark970
Drifting

 
mark970's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2017
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,310
Received 273 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by hcbph
This may be of interest to you: https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/

That was one of the sites I used when I was planning on upgrading tires and rims on my 86. Mine has a different offset, but once I had a possible size, I ran it through this site to confirm my choice. Then I went and talked to vendors to confirm all should fit as planned before laying down my $$. I also got the rims before the tires. If there's a problem, seems foolish to have tires but no rims to mount them to. in fact I had to go to multiple places before I found on that could actually get the rims I wanted.

Just some comments. Good luck.


carbon copy of my approach. i also got the rims first and I'm glad i did because one of them got dinged in shipping and i needed to order a replacement, so another week delay. point is it requires a plan to buy tires, you're going to be in this for a couple grand so plan wisely, once tires are mounted you typically cant return wheels.
Old 07-24-2017, 10:52 AM
  #10  
mark970
Drifting

 
mark970's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2017
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,310
Received 273 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

and then there is this......

once you go wider, you will more than likely realize the rear axle isnt positioned on the car perfectly center. its VERY common in a late model C4 and almost impossible to correct. The C5's corrected this by allowing the entire rear cage to be adjusted via slots on the mounting but not in the C4...even in my car at just 10.5 i notice it (about 1/8th of an inch difference...some see as much as a quarter inch difference and its not specific to driver or passenger side). its a problem and you can google it if you want to research this for yourself. this could be used as justification to go x4 at 9.5 it's all up to what look you're going for

and btw x4 on a C4 isnt odd...91-92 did it factory base and i "think" the Z51 package did it 93-96 (excluding 95..no Z51 that year but maybe FX3 did it?, i dont really know), they just used a 275 at all 4 instead of a 285.

Last edited by mark970; 07-24-2017 at 11:01 AM.
Old 07-24-2017, 11:32 AM
  #11  
bethundered
7th Gear
Thread Starter
 
bethundered's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2017
Posts: 7
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default


These rims is what I have in mind. Called the American Racing dealer and he recommended me 18x9 at front and 18x9 at the rear. So I don't know, half an inch smaller at the rear. I don't like that.
Old 07-24-2017, 12:34 PM
  #12  
mark970
Drifting

 
mark970's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2017
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,310
Received 273 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bethundered

These rims is what I have in mind. Called the American Racing dealer and he recommended me 18x9 at front and 18x9 at the rear. So I don't know, half an inch smaller at the rear. I don't like that.
the BIG issue with non-corvette wheels are the sizes. they will almost always be narrower with a goofy offset to make them "fit" to the edge of the wheel opening. i would suggest going to "OEWheels" website and looking at ALL the direct fit 56mm offset Corvette replicas they offer.

http://www.oewheelsllc.com/make/Chev...ette/year/1994

Last edited by mark970; 07-24-2017 at 12:37 PM.
The following users liked this post:
bethundered (07-24-2017)
Old 07-24-2017, 12:36 PM
  #13  
mark970
Drifting

 
mark970's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2017
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,310
Received 273 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bethundered

These rims is what I have in mind. Called the American Racing dealer and he recommended me 18x9 at front and 18x9 at the rear. So I don't know, half an inch smaller at the rear. I don't like that.
But those wheels do look nice! they are just going in the opposite direction that you want to go in (narrower)
Old 07-24-2017, 01:01 PM
  #14  
vader86
Team Owner
 
vader86's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2001
Location: Athens AL
Posts: 59,640
Received 1,400 Likes on 1,016 Posts
C7 of the Year - Unmodified Finalist 2021
C4 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019

Default

11" with the right offset is the widest I've seen that fits flush. I have the same 18x10.5 wheels as mark970 above.

You could probably go wider but it'll be aftermarket and something more specialty.
Old 07-24-2017, 01:03 PM
  #15  
bethundered
7th Gear
Thread Starter
 
bethundered's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2017
Posts: 7
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mark970
But those wheels do look nice! they are just going in the opposite direction that you want to go in (narrower)
Okay you mean rims like this...


It's nice but i like the other more.
Old 07-24-2017, 01:09 PM
  #16  
mark970
Drifting

 
mark970's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2017
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,310
Received 273 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by vader86
11" with the right offset is the widest I've seen that fits flush. I have the same 18x10.5 wheels as mark970 above.

You could probably go wider but it'll be aftermarket and something more specialty.


the 11" come with a 50mm offset (which is .236 or basically a 1/4") so that 1/4" will sit more inside and the other 1/4" will stick out the other way on top of whats already sticking out for a 10.5 with the normal 56mm offset.

Because the 11" wheel is 1/2" wider than a 10.5, the 50mm offset helps split that difference and provide a balanced growth of 1/4" in both directions.
Old 07-24-2017, 01:43 PM
  #17  
bethundered
7th Gear
Thread Starter
 
bethundered's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2017
Posts: 7
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

These Foose wheels will fit but they are expensive... € 6240,--

http://www.foosedesignwheels.com/ico...eelimage=10189

This is why I started this thread. I was looking for a cheap look a like.
Thank you all for the comments, I know much more now.
Old 07-24-2017, 01:53 PM
  #18  
mark970
Drifting

 
mark970's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2017
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,310
Received 273 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

good luck on whatever you do!
Old 07-24-2017, 01:55 PM
  #19  
bethundered
7th Gear
Thread Starter
 
bethundered's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2017
Posts: 7
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mark970
good luck on whatever you do!
Thanks man

Get notified of new replies

To How many inch wheels without sticking out.




Quick Reply: How many inch wheels without sticking out.



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:18 PM.