Power steering pump?
12-13-2017, 07:12 PM
#1
Power steering pump?
i just installed a new power steering pump a month ago. In the last couple of weeks it has started to make noise again. The pump whines when it’s cold but does seem to lessen and go away after the engine warms up to operating temperature. It’s not losing fluid. Just wondering if i need to bite the bullet and swap for another one. I hate to think that’s the solution as it’s a bit**. Am i missing something, could there be another easier fix?
12-13-2017, 08:44 PM
#4
Your pump came from who? You mention new but for most C4 applications that's not an option.
GM ColdClimate has quieted every pump I ever had issues with IF IT WASN'T A BAD PUMP!!
GM ColdClimate has quieted every pump I ever had issues with IF IT WASN'T A BAD PUMP!!
12-14-2017, 03:06 AM
#5
FWIW, I've had noise issues with a couple C4 PS pumps - mostly, both my 90's. this stuff seem to work for me, and definitely made a difference - 
12-14-2017, 10:43 AM
#7
It's certainly a pain in the a$$ to do the pump again but I'd have a conversation with the vendor before I did a thing. Depending on the vendor a conversation can get you the part and also a labor reimbursement for the work.
Last edited by WVZR-1; 12-14-2017 at 10:44 AM.
12-14-2017, 12:09 PM
#8
The OP mentioned NEW PUMP - why would you throw additives at it! GM ColdClimate isn't an additive but is meant for continued usage.
It's certainly a pain in the a$$ to do the pump again but I'd have a conversation with the vendor before I did a thing. Depending on the vendor a conversation can get you the part and also a labor reimbursement for the work.
It's certainly a pain in the a$$ to do the pump again but I'd have a conversation with the vendor before I did a thing. Depending on the vendor a conversation can get you the part and also a labor reimbursement for the work.
, not sure "new" is readily available for the C4 anymore. so, the OP installed a new, rebuilt, remanufactured, or whatever, and a month later, it started making noise. so why do you think there's issues with lucas PS fluid with conditioners??? it's a fine product and worth a try before tearing things apart a second time. all I said in my post was I used it on a couple 90's with noisy pumps, and I had definite improvements with the lucas product. it was nothing more than a suggestion based on personal experience. lucas PS fluid w/ conditioners is not going to hurt a friggin thing.
12-14-2017, 12:26 PM
#9
why not? do you think it's going to hurt anything? OP said a "new" pump, but is it really new or is it rebuilt or remanufactured? as you said in a previous post "You mention new but for most C4 applications that's not an option, and , not sure "new" is readily available for the C4 anymore. so, the OP installed a new, rebuilt, remanufactured, or whatever, and a month later, it started making noise. so why do you think there's issues with lucas PS fluid with conditioners??? it's a fine product and worth a try before tearing things apart a second time. all I said in my post was I used it on a couple 90's with noisy pumps, and I had definite improvements with the lucas product. it was nothing more than a suggestion based on personal experience. lucas PS fluid w/ conditioners is not going to hurt a friggin thing.
, not sure "new" is readily available for the C4 anymore. so, the OP installed a new, rebuilt, remanufactured, or whatever, and a month later, it started making noise. so why do you think there's issues with lucas PS fluid with conditioners??? it's a fine product and worth a try before tearing things apart a second time. all I said in my post was I used it on a couple 90's with noisy pumps, and I had definite improvements with the lucas product. it was nothing more than a suggestion based on personal experience. lucas PS fluid w/ conditioners is not going to hurt a friggin thing. You have a conversation now then maybe the vendor sticks with you and if it fails in a reasonable amount of time they accommodate you in some fashion. Use the 'CONDITIONER' - extender and it fails in 6 mos the vendor says 'go away'!
That's why!!!
The OP has been here this AM and hasn't bothered to post back so yours, mine and anyone else's thoughts are maybe irrelevant anyway!
Last edited by WVZR-1; 12-14-2017 at 12:29 PM.
12-14-2017, 03:37 PM
#10
Right now it's very likely covered with a warranty of sorts regardless new, reman or rebuilt or used - NEW to him!!!
You have a conversation now then maybe the vendor sticks with you and if it fails in a reasonable amount of time they accommodate you in some fashion. Use the 'CONDITIONER' - extender and it fails in 6 mos the vendor says 'go away'!
That's why!!!
The OP has been here this AM and hasn't bothered to post back so yours, mine and anyone else's thoughts are maybe irrelevant anyway!
You have a conversation now then maybe the vendor sticks with you and if it fails in a reasonable amount of time they accommodate you in some fashion. Use the 'CONDITIONER' - extender and it fails in 6 mos the vendor says 'go away'!
That's why!!!
The OP has been here this AM and hasn't bothered to post back so yours, mine and anyone else's thoughts are maybe irrelevant anyway!
maybe lucas should put a warning label on the bottle "caution the use of this product may void your warranty." 
Last edited by Joe C; 12-14-2017 at 03:43 PM.
12-14-2017, 05:09 PM
#12
Nothing to do with the conditioner - it's CYA for the pump you've bought and are concerned about the operation!
You buy a part or piece of equipment, you're concerned about operation, you don't throw additives at it - you talk to the guy that sold you the part or the equipment!! Granted it's assumed you've installed the part or are using the equipment as intended! OP feels he has so you go to the vendor before doing anything!
Last edited by WVZR-1; 12-14-2017 at 05:16 PM.
12-14-2017, 06:24 PM
#13
Sorry for not responding earlier. I haven’t had a chance to try anything yet. Work gets in the way. Perhaps i shouldn’t have used the word “new”. I got the part from advance auto. I doubt they will provide any compensation to reinstall a new pump. Pump came with a lifetime warranty. When i first installed he “new” pump it worked great. There was no noise. About two weeks later the noise began. I’m thinking it’s just a bad pump but wasn’t sure if I’d missed something i should try. I’ll try to bleed the pump again and will swap for the Lucas fluid and see what happens. Otherwise i guess i gotta do that job again. It just sucks as that was a pain in the ***, especially that bottom bolt that is behind the pulley.
12-15-2017, 12:10 AM
#16
OP - I believe that at 1 month or so the pump might be considered a "defect" and replacement NOT A WARRANTY issue. If you buy from them regularly I wouldn't have trouble speaking to a manager and asking install compensation.
If you use the conditioner and down the road 6 months the pump goes then it's a warranty only for the pump. The pump they give you will have no further warranty. They've done the "limited lifetime". I didn't look at their specific documents but I believe that's the new "limited lifetime" from most retail parts resellers. Once and DONE!!
Right now I'd think they would consider it a defective and a replacement still have the warranty.
I'd ask them - Advance Auto! Not me Joe, John, Jim or his cousin George!! Who does AA remans? Cardone
The filter is a good suggestion in #15. There are specialty filters also.
If you use the conditioner and down the road 6 months the pump goes then it's a warranty only for the pump. The pump they give you will have no further warranty. They've done the "limited lifetime". I didn't look at their specific documents but I believe that's the new "limited lifetime" from most retail parts resellers. Once and DONE!!
Right now I'd think they would consider it a defective and a replacement still have the warranty.
I'd ask them - Advance Auto! Not me Joe, John, Jim or his cousin George!! Who does AA remans? Cardone
The filter is a good suggestion in #15. There are specialty filters also.
Last edited by WVZR-1; 12-15-2017 at 12:13 AM.
12-15-2017, 06:31 AM
#17
Sorry for not responding earlier. I haven’t had a chance to try anything yet. Work gets in the way. Perhaps i shouldn’t have used the word “new”. I got the part from advance auto. I doubt they will provide any compensation to reinstall a new pump. Pump came with a lifetime warranty. When i first installed he “new” pump it worked great. There was no noise. About two weeks later the noise began. I’m thinking it’s just a bad pump but wasn’t sure if I’d missed something i should try. I’ll try to bleed the pump again and will swap for the Lucas fluid and see what happens. Otherwise i guess i gotta do that job again. It just sucks as that was a pain in the ***, especially that bottom bolt that is behind the pulley.
OP - I believe that at 1 month or so the pump might be considered a "defect" and replacement NOT A WARRANTY issue. If you buy from them regularly I wouldn't have trouble speaking to a manager and asking install compensation.
If you use the conditioner and down the road 6 months the pump goes then it's a warranty only for the pump. The pump they give you will have no further warranty. They've done the "limited lifetime". I didn't look at their specific documents but I believe that's the new "limited lifetime" from most retail parts resellers. Once and DONE!!
Right now I'd think they would consider it a defective and a replacement still have the warranty.
I'd ask them - Advance Auto! Not me Joe, John, Jim or his cousin George!! Who does AA remans? Cardone
The filter is a good suggestion in #15. There are specialty filters also.
If you use the conditioner and down the road 6 months the pump goes then it's a warranty only for the pump. The pump they give you will have no further warranty. They've done the "limited lifetime". I didn't look at their specific documents but I believe that's the new "limited lifetime" from most retail parts resellers. Once and DONE!!
Right now I'd think they would consider it a defective and a replacement still have the warranty.
I'd ask them - Advance Auto! Not me Joe, John, Jim or his cousin George!! Who does AA remans? Cardone
The filter is a good suggestion in #15. There are specialty filters also.
Last edited by Joe C; 12-15-2017 at 07:55 AM.
12-15-2017, 06:57 AM
#18
I appreciate the replies and responses. I’m going to try the filter and new fluid. I seriously doubt advanced auto will provide any type of compensation for having to reinstall a non defective pump. Pretty sure labor is excluded in any of their warranty or defective product warranties.
12-15-2017, 09:08 AM
#19
I never said nor do I believe I implied that!!
OP can do as he likes - his money! At least he bought 'local' so he can discuss it 'toe to toe'. Does he choose NOT TO fine. If the OP feels his install was proper it needs discussed now and NOT after a trial run with additives. It's already a month or so old.
I don't believe I mentioned 'tech support' from AA anywhere!
Last edited by WVZR-1; 12-15-2017 at 09:23 AM.
12-15-2017, 10:07 AM
#20
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Just to be clear, the picture of the product in NOT an additive... it is in fact power steering fluid with conditioners.... I have used it to completely fill power steering systems.... 