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Old 12-30-2017, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PatternDayTrader
Geez o petes calm down.
I know you don't follow GM service procedures.

I thought if you had a better way of dealing with injector issues then you might want to talk about it. The friendly post is not a game. I guess your not ready for that. Have a nice day.
And yet you asked? How stupid is that?

I did. You either weren't paying attention in the past thread or you didn't understand and were just scribbling stuff down. It was there but you decided to ask crazy leading questions so no, I while you LOOK like a nice friendly guy IN THIS POST, I'm not buying it based on the patterns I observe.
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Old 12-30-2017, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cjunkie
If you listen to many here you change when the DIC says 0, not even 3k.
Do you KNOW what the DIC bases it on? I heard it is RPM and mileage and injector pulses. If so my DIC will never be right since it wasn't programmed with 42 pph injectors. I know my later MBs used an oil quality sensor that does some sort of resistance measurement. I did check up on MB and it seemed reasonably close.
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Originally Posted by Cjunkie
Only thing in your statement that is incorrect is they DID go bankrupt. But GM did screw tons of supplier companies that put a lot of Americans out of work and did build a plant in China with American Tax payer money.
I mean GM almost paid most of it back.
But we got to kick the ball down the road, right? The unions would lose jobs and even non-union senators will get a bad name as being the ones that killed Dear Old GM who didn't deserve to survive. Doesn't matter what it costs as long as the taxpayer THINKS he gets something today even if it will cost much more later.
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I'll stay on track...

GM as a RESPONSIBLE American Business should have fired from the top down and restructured.

BUT!! why do that when you are obviously as corrupt as the ones you employ and possible it is your organizational culture?

I know my place as a nobody in life, BUT I actually heard personally from a multi billionare that large Companies have ALL been doing very well for a long long time in the U.S no matter the circumstances.

That says a lot and frankly says it all.

That was just another scam allowed to be purported, because the right people were involved or paid off.

Unions don't take all the business money. I have been owner of 2 small businesses and I know major business owners, ALL businesses would have left this Country decades ago if they were not making money.

Always blame up, never down. A union member is the lowest of any business totem pole. They get the scraps.

They make what someone deemed fair enough wage to pay them, they take what benefits are offered, and they work with what they are given.

All this glorified ignorance of what unions do is ridiculous and been perpetuated for way too many decades.

Business is business and if the numbers don't make sense there are always other options.

Sure it would be nice to pay someone less money, or worse benefits, but does it benefit your Company? Do you draw the best candidates union or not?

GM sucks, and it was proven in 08-09, F that place and so many others. AIG who ever...

My OPINION is that places freaked out about "change" and got as greedy as they could before the possible "change" happened.

The market sucked and got messed up form big business playing games, not ding dongs making 100,00-150,000 combined family incomes doing anything different.

I have been on 3 sides of the coin. Union, Admin, and owner.
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I put in a bottle of BG 44K this summer. I did not notice any difference but I felt good about it anyway. Dan
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Pologreen with a very well thought out 15thousandth post.

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Originally Posted by pologreen1
GM as a RESPONSIBLE American Business should have fired from the top down and restructured.

Unions don't take all the business money. I have been owner of 2 small businesses and I know major business owners, ALL businesses would have left this Country decades ago if they were not making money.

Always blame up, never down. A union member is the lowest of any business totem pole. They get the scraps.

They make what someone deemed fair enough wage to pay them, they take what benefits are offered, and they work with what they are given.

Business is business and if the numbers don't make sense there are always other options.

Sure it would be nice to pay someone less money, or worse benefits, but does it benefit your Company? Do you draw the best candidates union or not?

GM sucks, and it was proven in 08-09, F that place and so many others. AIG who ever...

I have been on 3 sides of the coin. Union, Admin, and owner.
IMO, it should have been left to fend for itself. Sink or swim is up to you. I am not in agreement of public risk for the private profit of the shareholders. IIRC, there were some parts of the loans that were "bankrupted" or something, not entirely sure now.

Thing is, in this case, the unions own the Dems and the Reps won't dare to be the one that voted against the bailout. Remember the banking bailout? When there was all kinds of bonuses paid out, suddenly senators on both sides were "OUTRAGED".

True but the union organization is not the same person as the guy pushing the broom in the factory.

Yes, closing the door should be the option.

I'd draw the best candidates but does my business have that choice or would they have to hire only union labor? I know that when my wife worked at a hospital years ago as an RN, her choice was only whether to get part of her union dues back that went to political stuff. IOW, like it or not, she was drafted into the unions.

Well, you started "too big to fail" and you are going to have a hard time saying "AIG, YES. GM, NO"

Exactly why I think it should have been allowed to "reboot" or "crash" depending on who was willing to pick up it's debts.
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Originally Posted by Whaleman
I put in a bottle of BG 44K this summer.

I did not notice any difference but I felt good about it anyway. Dan
If you did, you have a very sensitive SOTP dyno.

Then you got what you paid for. A good feeling regardless of whether it does anything or not.
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wow, no matter the motor forum I belong to there are basically three topics that will bring on full retard mode. Best oil, tires and fuel/octane etc.

My experience is this. On a vehicle that a person doesn't want to buy a new injector(s) or get into a full carb service and rebuild due to age or value, I've had decent results by changing the filters and then using Seafoam at higher than recomended mixture ratios. Usually a full bottle to a half tank or less. I jokingly refer to Seafoam as paint thinner because, well, it's true. The ingredients read like the contents of one of my paint lockers. The best result I remember was with a 1988 Ford Escort 5 speed. It brought that car from the brink of death back to a really good runner. With good oil and changes it ran perfectly for the next 5 years. Got junked when the body rotted but ran great!

With that said, I have had positive results doing this. I wouldn't do this with a good vehicle with decent value. I also don't believe in any of the fuel or oil additives that claim better running or greater this or that. For the Vette I use the suggested Mobil 1 full synthetic because it's good oil, too. When possible, I fill up at Chevron with the suggested octane. It has Teckron added as a bonus. just doing those two thing (prior owner did this also), when looking in the oil fill and other openings the engine looks and runs brand new despite 70,000 on the clock.
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Originally Posted by Palanon
wow, no matter the motor forum I belong to there are basically three topics that will bring on full retard mode. Best oil, tires and fuel/octane etc.
​​​​​​​There's a service bulletin describing the testing process for restricted injectors and the cleaning process required for correction. Worth a look in case your intrested.
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