Shorty vs. Long Tube Headers
02-12-2018, 03:15 PM
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That would be great if I only knew of a local place around here that could do that kind of work.
02-12-2018, 03:17 PM
#22
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I put a set of pacesetter shorties on my 95 vert two years ago. I did the shorties for several reasons, my stock manifolds were cracked and were noisy, having a convertible and dealing with the X brace wasn't anything I wanted to mess with and shorty headers bolt right up to the existing down pipe of the exhaust. It did clean up the engine bay appearance some, it made the exhaust a little louder( which I liked) the only real drawback was spark plug access. It really sucks now. And make sure you get a good set of gaskets like fel-pro and don't use the ones that come with the headers.
You'll hear most people say it's not worth anything to put shorties on, if you're looking to add 30 hp, yea, it's not gonna do that. But if you have other reasons or you just don't want to spend a bundle on LT headers, then do what you want. It is, afterall , your car.
Over the last two years, I've put shorties on, replaced the catalytic converters, installed muffler elims, cut the air filter lid, bypassed the throttle body coolant and a few other odds n ends that were free. By my guesstimate I've maybe gained 10-12 hp. I have less than 400$ in the mods to get that. Not a horrible return. And it does sound good!!
You'll hear most people say it's not worth anything to put shorties on, if you're looking to add 30 hp, yea, it's not gonna do that. But if you have other reasons or you just don't want to spend a bundle on LT headers, then do what you want. It is, afterall , your car.
Over the last two years, I've put shorties on, replaced the catalytic converters, installed muffler elims, cut the air filter lid, bypassed the throttle body coolant and a few other odds n ends that were free. By my guesstimate I've maybe gained 10-12 hp. I have less than 400$ in the mods to get that. Not a horrible return. And it does sound good!!
02-13-2018, 07:37 AM
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02-13-2018, 09:01 AM
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Burning Brakes
02-13-2018, 09:44 AM
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02-13-2018, 10:00 AM
#28
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He said $100. But I would never spend the hours removing to replace with these myself.
My concern though is with both shorties and long tubes is without heat shields what gets destroyed around the engine? Anything?
And if one wraps these I can tell you that wrap wont last long if you drive it much.. they tend to turn to powder.
02-13-2018, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jpipx
Nice. What made you decide to go with the Pacesetter units instead of another brand?
It took me all of 8 hours to install them. Good luck with whatever route you take
02-13-2018, 07:46 PM
#30
Burning Brakes
Sounds to me that the OP is focused on aesthetics and not performance, so I would recommend doing one of the options to clean up the existing manifolds. Its most cost effective, achieves what you're looking for, and less likely to run into reliability and heat issues that can happen with headers.
As an aside, anyone ever port & polish these manifolds? I don't anticipate it would achieve much, just curious if anyone around here has tried that.
As an aside, anyone ever port & polish these manifolds? I don't anticipate it would achieve much, just curious if anyone around here has tried that.
02-14-2018, 07:57 PM
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Sounds to me that the OP is focused on aesthetics and not performance, so I would recommend doing one of the options to clean up the existing manifolds. Its most cost effective, achieves what you're looking for, and less likely to run into reliability and heat issues that can happen with headers.
As an aside, anyone ever port & polish these manifolds? I don't anticipate it would achieve much, just curious if anyone around here has tried that.
As an aside, anyone ever port & polish these manifolds? I don't anticipate it would achieve much, just curious if anyone around here has tried that.
Aesthetics wasn't even on the list of reasons why I put long tubes on my car.
Although, they don't look bad.
Last edited by TA; 02-14-2018 at 08:00 PM.