The C4 don't get any respect
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I'll tell you why the C4 garners so little respect: lack of factory horsepower.
Until the ZR-1 came out, 250 horsepower was the max for a C4. Even the C2's could be had with more advertised power than that. (and advertised power is what creates legends and sells sports cars).
C2's you could buy right off the dealer's showroom floor with 425hp. C3's could be ordered with 465hp (all advertised). Not counting the ZR-1, what's the most factory horsepower you could get in a C4? That's right, 330.
That doesn't produce icons, guys. The C4's are excellent sports cars, as we all know, but they are't the fastest things on the road and never have been.
That's why they aren't lusted after today, decades after production has ceased.
Until the ZR-1 came out, 250 horsepower was the max for a C4. Even the C2's could be had with more advertised power than that. (and advertised power is what creates legends and sells sports cars).
C2's you could buy right off the dealer's showroom floor with 425hp. C3's could be ordered with 465hp (all advertised). Not counting the ZR-1, what's the most factory horsepower you could get in a C4? That's right, 330.
That doesn't produce icons, guys. The C4's are excellent sports cars, as we all know, but they are't the fastest things on the road and never have been.
That's why they aren't lusted after today, decades after production has ceased.
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With all do respect, do you drive one because you love it or because you cant afford a new or newer vette? Im just curious.. I guess what Im saying, if you just had your choice.. and money was no factor, on purchase OR even on resale.. which would you hop into? I know Id hop into a new vette just for the power. Id be embarrassed I think about how they look.. too flashy.. its the "look at me!" factor.
Not trying to cause trouble.. Im just curious.
Not trying to cause trouble.. Im just curious.
C6 Z06 is what I like the most. I bought a C4 because Ive always wanted one since I was a kid. It's the car I fell in love with as a kid .
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I'll tell you why the C4 garners so little respect: lack of factory horsepower.
Until the ZR-1 came out, 250 horsepower was the max for a C4. Even the C2's could be had with more advertised power than that. (and advertised power is what creates legends and sells sports cars).
C2's you could buy right off the dealer's showroom floor with 425hp. C3's could be ordered with 465hp (all advertised). Not counting the ZR-1, what's the most factory horsepower you could get in a C4? That's right, 330.
That doesn't produce icons, guys. The C4's are excellent sports cars, as we all know, but they are't the fastest things on the road and never have been.
That's why they aren't lusted after today, decades after production has ceased.
Until the ZR-1 came out, 250 horsepower was the max for a C4. Even the C2's could be had with more advertised power than that. (and advertised power is what creates legends and sells sports cars).
C2's you could buy right off the dealer's showroom floor with 425hp. C3's could be ordered with 465hp (all advertised). Not counting the ZR-1, what's the most factory horsepower you could get in a C4? That's right, 330.
That doesn't produce icons, guys. The C4's are excellent sports cars, as we all know, but they are't the fastest things on the road and never have been.
That's why they aren't lusted after today, decades after production has ceased.
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I love how nobody gives a crap about who likes their C4 and who doesnt.... I bet if you had to tool around everywhere in a rusted out Pacer you give a crap what people thought of you.... cause youd be embarrassed. I dont think anyone is embarrassed driving a C4 Corvette of any year....
Damn near every one of you takes the time to keep our cars looking in top condition.... youre all gonna tell me thats because you dont care who looks at it and what anyones opinion of your car is.... Riiiiight....
Damn near every one of you takes the time to keep our cars looking in top condition.... youre all gonna tell me thats because you dont care who looks at it and what anyones opinion of your car is.... Riiiiight....
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With all do respect, do you drive one because you love it or because you cant afford a new or newer vette? Im just curious.. I guess what Im saying, if you just had your choice.. and money was no factor, on purchase OR even on resale.. which would you hop into? I know Id hop into a new vette just for the power. Id be embarrassed I think about how they look.. too flashy.. its the "look at me!" factor.
Not trying to cause trouble.. Im just curious.
Not trying to cause trouble.. Im just curious.
Mine
Showing my C4 appreciation
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St. Jude '03-'04-'05-'06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17-'18-‘19-'20-'21-'22-'23-'24
When people do this to a C4, they dont need encouragement, especially from us.
#47
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I drive around with HD station KROQ HD2 , and it is only 80's, think that is fun=yes.
If I want luxury I have the Range Rover P38 with 10 speakers. I do like c5 though.
They played Ministry , Effigy, brought me back!
If I want luxury I have the Range Rover P38 with 10 speakers. I do like c5 though.
They played Ministry , Effigy, brought me back!
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#48
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Not here, it doesn't.
I don't feel good about myself when the crack ***** says she'd like to bed me. OTOH, I would feel good if the supermodel says the same thing. Point is, the admiration of Brittany Force likes what I did to the car, sure. Some guy off the street who doesn't know much? Nope. More irritating than if he kept quiet.
#49
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With all do respect, do you drive one because you love it or because you cant afford a new or newer vette? Im just curious.. I guess what Im saying, if you just had your choice.. and money was no factor, on purchase OR even on resale.. which would you hop into? I know Id hop into a new vette just for the power. Id be embarrassed I think about how they look.. too flashy.. its the "look at me!" factor.
Not trying to cause trouble.. Im just curious.
Not trying to cause trouble.. Im just curious.
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Al Bundy. Former star running back of Polk High, current shoe salesman at Gary's Shoes and Accessories for Today's Woman. At it's debut, it was the 2nd coming. Not anymore today.
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roccos got a point.
The icon/collectible cars are known from the second they come out.
GNX, ZR1- Callaway etc. Dont expect a 4-5k car to all of a sudden go nuts on price.
There has to be a demand & there just isnt any.
Its a great bang for the buck, cheaper than a camaro
The icon/collectible cars are known from the second they come out.
GNX, ZR1- Callaway etc. Dont expect a 4-5k car to all of a sudden go nuts on price.
There has to be a demand & there just isnt any.
Its a great bang for the buck, cheaper than a camaro
#52
I love how nobody gives a crap about who likes their C4 and who doesnt.... I bet if you had to tool around everywhere in a rusted out Pacer you give a crap what people thought of you.... cause youd be embarrassed. I dont think anyone is embarrassed driving a C4 Corvette of any year....
Damn near every one of you takes the time to keep our cars looking in top condition.... youre all gonna tell me thats because you dont care who looks at it and what anyones opinion of your car is.... Riiiiight....
Damn near every one of you takes the time to keep our cars looking in top condition.... youre all gonna tell me thats because you dont care who looks at it and what anyones opinion of your car is.... Riiiiight....
The c4 is green, black parts, used seats that show wear in the driver seat, unfinished hood scoop, not polished in the engine bay, headers are TPIS with welds on them, coating not shiny, etc. You get the point.
Honestly I don't care enough to do something about it, but sometimes I think "well I should clean it up", it is the way the car is. As I always tell people... :it's not a show car" People like it for other reasons, most more than I do to be honest.
Been asked for months by many to show it a car show today, I think I spent 10-20 minutes trying to clean, not polish the exhaust and say F this 2 weeks ago.
I just don't get off on polishing it. In fact I have primer on it now (getting fixed when some other parts get painted), I scratched the front bumper, if this was a viper or new car I would have **** a brick. I like that I can be at a lower level of upset when things happen to the c4.
The old saying "that is why we don't have nice things" applies to me.
I agree though, most do and should care about the pride they take in their cars here.
#53
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I'll tell you why the C4 garners so little respect: lack of factory horsepower.
Until the ZR-1 came out, 250 horsepower was the max for a C4. Even the C2's could be had with more advertised power than that. (and advertised power is what creates legends and sells sports cars).
C2's you could buy right off the dealer's showroom floor with 425hp. C3's could be ordered with 465hp (all advertised). Not counting the ZR-1, what's the most factory horsepower you could get in a C4? That's right, 330.
That doesn't produce icons, guys. The C4's are excellent sports cars, as we all know, but they are't the fastest things on the road and never have been.
That's why they aren't lusted after today, decades after production has ceased.
Until the ZR-1 came out, 250 horsepower was the max for a C4. Even the C2's could be had with more advertised power than that. (and advertised power is what creates legends and sells sports cars).
C2's you could buy right off the dealer's showroom floor with 425hp. C3's could be ordered with 465hp (all advertised). Not counting the ZR-1, what's the most factory horsepower you could get in a C4? That's right, 330.
That doesn't produce icons, guys. The C4's are excellent sports cars, as we all know, but they are't the fastest things on the road and never have been.
That's why they aren't lusted after today, decades after production has ceased.
The LT1 from 92 to 96 was rated at 300hp. Using the old ratings it's still more powerful than the old LT1 of 1970 that was rated 370hp. The LT1 with a performance axle is not slow, even by today's standards.
#54
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I'll tell you why the C4 garners so little respect: lack of factory horsepower.
Until the ZR-1 came out, 250 horsepower was the max for a C4. Even the C2's could be had with more advertised power than that. (and advertised power is what creates legends and sells sports cars).
C2's you could buy right off the dealer's showroom floor with 425hp. C3's could be ordered with 465hp (all advertised). Not counting the ZR-1, what's the most factory horsepower you could get in a C4? That's right, 330.
That doesn't produce icons, guys. The C4's are excellent sports cars, as we all know, but they are't the fastest things on the road and never have been.
That's why they aren't lusted after today, decades after production has ceased.
Until the ZR-1 came out, 250 horsepower was the max for a C4. Even the C2's could be had with more advertised power than that. (and advertised power is what creates legends and sells sports cars).
C2's you could buy right off the dealer's showroom floor with 425hp. C3's could be ordered with 465hp (all advertised). Not counting the ZR-1, what's the most factory horsepower you could get in a C4? That's right, 330.
That doesn't produce icons, guys. The C4's are excellent sports cars, as we all know, but they are't the fastest things on the road and never have been.
That's why they aren't lusted after today, decades after production has ceased.
I agree.. 300hp is nothing to get excited about. I cant even bust my tires loose from a dead stop in my automatic version. Granted they are new and sticky but should be easy. When I had dry rotted stuff on I could.. wish I had my dry rotted tires now.
#55
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Yep.
Not here, it doesn't.
I don't feel good about myself when the crack ***** says she'd like to bed me. OTOH, I would feel good if the supermodel says the same thing. Point is, the admiration of Brittany Force likes what I did to the car, sure. Some guy off the street who doesn't know much? Nope. More irritating than if he kept quiet.
Not here, it doesn't.
I don't feel good about myself when the crack ***** says she'd like to bed me. OTOH, I would feel good if the supermodel says the same thing. Point is, the admiration of Brittany Force likes what I did to the car, sure. Some guy off the street who doesn't know much? Nope. More irritating than if he kept quiet.
You sound like a real nice person. You claim you don't like some guy off the street coming over and chatting about your car. Maybe you should just drive a camry?
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1984 CORVETTE From the article:
"Item: It is hands-down the fastest American automobile.... In fact, these figures qualify the Corvette as one of the half-dozen fastest production automobiles in the entire world!"
'85 TOP SPEED From the article:
"The 1985 Corvette will go 150 miles per hour. Think about that. Three or four years ago, American enthusiasts were wondering if the American performance car was dead forever. Now we find ourselves able to buy an American car that will run with the best in the world"
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#59
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I do not. All they can do is say it looks good, fast or whatever. They can't give advice on what to do next.
#60
Burning Brakes
I love how nobody gives a crap about who likes their C4 and who doesnt.... I bet if you had to tool around everywhere in a rusted out Pacer you give a crap what people thought of you.... cause youd be embarrassed. I dont think anyone is embarrassed driving a C4 Corvette of any year....
Damn near every one of you takes the time to keep our cars looking in top condition.... youre all gonna tell me thats because you dont care who looks at it and what anyones opinion of your car is.... Riiiiight....
Damn near every one of you takes the time to keep our cars looking in top condition.... youre all gonna tell me thats because you dont care who looks at it and what anyones opinion of your car is.... Riiiiight....
I see BRAND new camaros painted satin black.. OMG... in 2 years its going to look like a total POS.
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