Corvette owners I met today were a bunch of.....
#21
Safety Car
I help run and organize one of the largest car cruises in PA. I love it, but I've had to deal with plenty of these "adult children". These arrogant type's are in EVERY car club . Mustangs, Chevelle's, Porsche, Cadillac, Pontiac, you name it. They're out there! Motorcycle owners too. They can be even worse! Once they whip out their color coordinated chairs, umbrella's and coolers and all gang up sitting in large groups in front of their precious gem's blocking the sightseer's from even looking at them, they immediately get this attitude of being superior or have the idea they're the "badass" people. Sure, there are some of these type people in the Corvette world, but it's a very small amount compared to the other groups. I NEVER park next to Corvette clubs. I don't need to. I don't solicit attention, but my 85 gets plenty of positive attention on it's own, so I don't need a "Club of Idiots" there to make me feel like a "badass".
#22
I like when people brag up or are proud of a stock car (old or new). lol lets keep in mind a corvette is attainable by most people, that is the point of them. If someone would brag up their stock Honda civic it would irritate people that had "sports cars". Same thing to me. It's just a car, many use them for daily drivers, and they were built for it.
Exotics is where the snobs are allowed to be IMO. They have the money to separate themselves from the poor.
Most people, Corvette= Nike. the kids with the new Nikes always laughed at the kids with the old ones, or BK's. Same story.
Exotics is where the snobs are allowed to be IMO. They have the money to separate themselves from the poor.
Most people, Corvette= Nike. the kids with the new Nikes always laughed at the kids with the old ones, or BK's. Same story.
Last edited by pologreen1; 06-13-2018 at 10:41 AM.
#23
Burning Brakes
I went to car show a few years ago. Lots of Stangs, supercharged putting out big numbers. When I asked them what they ran in the 1/4 mile they said they never go to the track. My old buddy used to say there is an ******* built for every seat.
#24
Racer
I hang out with some old car guys. Mostly old rods. Nice stuff. My town is so small that no one comments on if your car is good or bad because there are so few. They just know it's me coming and wave because I have the only one around.
#25
Le Mans Master
Member Since: Oct 2004
Location: South-central Missouri
Posts: 6,314
Received 500 Likes
on
395 Posts
As the (Eagles') song says:
I worked retail sales long enough to learn not to get emotional far as the reaction the public has to what I may be passionate about. And, that includes cars.
Different strokes for different folks. AND, some have narrower likes than others, and that's OK too.
I'm as passionate about shooting sports as well. And, in 50 years in that hobby, when it comes to rifles especially, mass produced guns seldom gets more than a "Hmmm... That's nice" from me. The exception is if there was truly some human TLC evident in the piece.
TLC is ART. I appreciate art. Wealth, on the other hand, can be fickle and sometimes comes and goes too quickly. But, ART endures.
Artists whether their "canvas" is painting, sculpting, or exquisite craftsmanship in (rifles) or (new/old) cars, is what/who I appreciate most. Their owner's accolades means way more to me than those who's only claim to fame (and their clique) is $$ and what they (and the bank) were able to write a check for.
Take $$ out of the equation, and those that (for them) worship it, and then you get down to those that appreciate art for its own sake. But, keep in mind not everyone is going to like the same things. So, "Get over it!" The only one's opinion of your passion that matters is YOU. And, if you meet up with others of like minds, well that is enriching too, but hopefully NOT why you bought your (whatever)!
"Your mileage may vary."
I worked retail sales long enough to learn not to get emotional far as the reaction the public has to what I may be passionate about. And, that includes cars.
Different strokes for different folks. AND, some have narrower likes than others, and that's OK too.
I'm as passionate about shooting sports as well. And, in 50 years in that hobby, when it comes to rifles especially, mass produced guns seldom gets more than a "Hmmm... That's nice" from me. The exception is if there was truly some human TLC evident in the piece.
TLC is ART. I appreciate art. Wealth, on the other hand, can be fickle and sometimes comes and goes too quickly. But, ART endures.
Artists whether their "canvas" is painting, sculpting, or exquisite craftsmanship in (rifles) or (new/old) cars, is what/who I appreciate most. Their owner's accolades means way more to me than those who's only claim to fame (and their clique) is $$ and what they (and the bank) were able to write a check for.
Take $$ out of the equation, and those that (for them) worship it, and then you get down to those that appreciate art for its own sake. But, keep in mind not everyone is going to like the same things. So, "Get over it!" The only one's opinion of your passion that matters is YOU. And, if you meet up with others of like minds, well that is enriching too, but hopefully NOT why you bought your (whatever)!
"Your mileage may vary."
#27
[left]Bummer to hear that:
I’ve run into shop owners (Corvette “specialty” shops) that have literally scoffed and said they didn’t work on C4s because they’re uhmm “Too Old”. One of them said it in an extremely condescending tone as he literally walked away mid-conversation (present CF supporting vendor, the owner out of all things) Needless to say, now I have my C4s and an 03 Z06 that will never have their products on it.
I’ve run into shop owners (Corvette “specialty” shops) that have literally scoffed and said they didn’t work on C4s because they’re uhmm “Too Old”. One of them said it in an extremely condescending tone as he literally walked away mid-conversation (present CF supporting vendor, the owner out of all things) Needless to say, now I have my C4s and an 03 Z06 that will never have their products on it.
Yep.
I have found the biggest d*che bags (regardless of whether it is a hot new Camaro, Challenger, Vette etc) are the ones that have done nothing but sign their names on a piece of paper to get the car. They don't change the oil, do any work on the car. It was all done for them either by a custom shop or off the showroom floor.
It is a status symbol. They pull into the the cruise in, flip up their hood and expect everyone to be impressed.
The only ones that impress me are the ones that have some sweat equity, some busted knuckles, etc invested into their cars.
I have found the biggest d*che bags (regardless of whether it is a hot new Camaro, Challenger, Vette etc) are the ones that have done nothing but sign their names on a piece of paper to get the car. They don't change the oil, do any work on the car. It was all done for them either by a custom shop or off the showroom floor.
It is a status symbol. They pull into the the cruise in, flip up their hood and expect everyone to be impressed.
The only ones that impress me are the ones that have some sweat equity, some busted knuckles, etc invested into their cars.
When I arrive at a show or cruise in, I also often flip my hood open. People like to see the 67 435 427 or the LT5 in my 95 ZR-1. But how would you know that I spent time earlier this spring replacing my clutch master cylinder and slave cylinder in my ZR-1 or that I had to re-gasket my 67 carburetors if you didn't decide to talk to me?
It is a little different in the Detroit area though. At the cars and coffee's that I attend it's not unusual to run into the guys who actually created much of the stuff that became our cars. The guy who was responsible for the 94-96 Corvette interior lives 2 doors away from me. Two chief Corvette designers live in my general neighborhood. The engineer who designed the fuel injection system for the L98 frequently comes to our Saturday cars and coffee. Same with the guy who set up the suspensions for the racing C2 Corvettes of the mid 60s. And the list goes on. Sure there are fools everywhere, but there is a greater sense of automotive involvement around where I live by many people - especially the "car" people.
#28
Race Director
Sometimes when the whole world appears to be wrong, maybe it's not the world. If I don't mesh with people around me, I just move on. To each his own. There are racers, waxers, and everything in between. There is no right or wrong. If you feel you are in the wrong crowd, find another crowd. No need to call everyone you don't get along with "******". I let my car do it's own talking at the track.
Last edited by 383vett; 06-13-2018 at 12:27 PM.
The following users liked this post:
95tealconvert (06-13-2018)
#29
Burning Brakes
Member Since: Jan 2017
Location: The Buckle of the Bible Belt. Joplin Mo
Posts: 1,012
Received 172 Likes
on
141 Posts
I think JETSTEEL has a valid point. That being said, you have to give respect to get it. The C-4 is a Corvette. And as relevant as any model made. Matter of fact, I am on the hunt right now. I have experienced the same problem when I roll up on a group of C-2 guys. Don't let the negative experience bring you down. Good friends are hard to find.
Ray
Ray
The following users liked this post:
Michael A (06-14-2018)
#30
I think JETSTEEL has a valid point. That being said, you have to give respect to get it. The C-4 is a Corvette. And as relevant as any model made. Matter of fact, I am on the hunt right now. I have experienced the same problem when I roll up on a group of C-2 guys. Don't let the negative experience bring you down. Good friends are hard to find.
Ray
Ray
Stable Mates
Last edited by bb62; 06-13-2018 at 02:04 PM.
#31
Race Director
Member Since: Jul 2000
Location: Out Where the Buses Don't Run, Eglin AFB/ Niceville FL
Posts: 15,246
Received 1,428 Likes
on
775 Posts
2022 Corvette of the Year Finalist -- Modified
2021 C6 of the Year Winner - Modified
Finalist 2020 C7 of the Year -- Modified
2020 C6 of the Year Finalist - Modified
#32
Burning Brakes
Member Since: Jan 2017
Location: The Buckle of the Bible Belt. Joplin Mo
Posts: 1,012
Received 172 Likes
on
141 Posts
[QUOTE=bb62;1597398117]I'm a long time C2 owner who bought a C4 as a second Corvette - does this mean I need to hate myself?
Only if you refused to engage the OP's interest in your car.
Only if you refused to engage the OP's interest in your car.
#33
Melting Slicks
Corvette owners in general have a reputation for being *********. This is for a reason. But obviously we are not all that way. I suspect one or two Corvette owners on their own would be nicer people. But get a bunch of them together and they think they are tough guys in a gang... "pack mentality" I guess, or maybe in a pissing contest with each other trying to be badasses. It happens often at car shows, too much testosterone and not enough humanity.
#34
They would be ****** no matter what they drove. Hell, they'd be ****** if they were walking.
#35
Sometimes when the whole world appears to be wrong, maybe it's not the world. If I don't mesh with people around me, I just move on. To each his own. There are racers, waxers, and everything in between. There is no right or wrong. If you feel you are in the wrong crowd, find another crowd. No need to call everyone you don't get along with "******". I let my car do it's own talking at the track.
Birds of a feather flock together!
#36
Pro
It is a little different in the Detroit area though. At the cars and coffee's that I attend it's not unusual to run into the guys who actually created much of the stuff that became our cars. The guy who was responsible for the 94-96 Corvette interior lives 2 doors away from me. Two chief Corvette designers live in my general neighborhood. The engineer who designed the fuel injection system for the L98 frequently comes to our Saturday cars and coffee. Same with the guy who set up the suspensions for the racing C2 Corvettes of the mid 60s. And the list goes on. Sure there are fools everywhere, but there is a greater sense of automotive involvement around where I live by many people - especially the "car" people.
To all you others on this board, with my equity in C4's, I probably could sell them and get at least one car from any generation, but C4's to me are like carrots to Bugs Bunny..."I just love em"! And of course I love all Corvettes.
Last edited by Meanmyz; 06-13-2018 at 06:21 PM.
#37
I wish I lived closer to where you live! I am not doing any "internet searches" here, just an enthusiast's memory... If I said "Jeff Yachnin" for one, Jerry Palmer, John Cafaro, or Tom Peters for number two, James Walker for number three, and Gib Hufstader for number four, would I be right on any count? Or did I strike out?
To all you others on this board, with my equity in C4's, I probably could sell them and get at least one car from any generation, but C4's to me are like carrots to Bugs Bunny..."I just love em"! And of course I love all Corvettes.
To all you others on this board, with my equity in C4's, I probably could sell them and get at least one car from any generation, but C4's to me are like carrots to Bugs Bunny..."I just love em"! And of course I love all Corvettes.
#38
Team Owner
******!!! I went to a CEUISE IN tonight in Lexington Nc the next town over from me,and it was really cool thousands of people just cruising/parking/eating checking out everybody's rides...and I'll tell you what the corvette owners I came in contact with were/are a bunch of ****** all of them every generation I came across they act like their crap don't stink,wave at them they just look at you like your from another planet or something...compliment them on their car and they just look at you Arrogant SOB's...I just wanted/want to have some corvette friends to hangout with learn from and just have fun..I love my beautiful white 87,its my dream car,and this ain't about validation,I didn't create the other thread (THE C4 GETS NO RESPECT) because it bothers me,it was just something I noticed over a period of time,I love my vette and I'll always drive it with pride,but I'll just do it independently now I'm a loner anyway...I'm not even gonna wave either..
dont anyone on this forum take what im saying personally because we don't know each other and I'm sure a lot of you guys/gals are cool people to hangout with,I'm just going by my experiences so far since I've only been a corvette owner since March 7 of this year
dont anyone on this forum take what im saying personally because we don't know each other and I'm sure a lot of you guys/gals are cool people to hangout with,I'm just going by my experiences so far since I've only been a corvette owner since March 7 of this year
Ask yourself this. Assuming it takes a while to get them to warm up, are they really worth it or can you go along and say "Screw them"??
#39
The more things change...
Some people can only feel good about themselves by putting others down. My first Vette was a '69 in 1973. I was surprised by how often I'd hear "Chevrolet hasn't made a CORVETTE since 1967". A year later I bought a '67. Then I'd hear "Chevrolet hasn't made a CORVETTE since 1962".
I had two '69s and the '67 when the C4s came out. Can anybody guess who were the non-waving snobs who had no interest in cars different than theirs'? There were exceptions but it noticeable.
Some people can only feel good about themselves by putting others down. My first Vette was a '69 in 1973. I was surprised by how often I'd hear "Chevrolet hasn't made a CORVETTE since 1967". A year later I bought a '67. Then I'd hear "Chevrolet hasn't made a CORVETTE since 1962".
I had two '69s and the '67 when the C4s came out. Can anybody guess who were the non-waving snobs who had no interest in cars different than theirs'? There were exceptions but it noticeable.