1988: needs new front brake hoses.
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Duralast hoses are fine but I'd go SS Braided hoses.
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Race Director
Duralast will be fine. Lifetime warranty too. If you're not racing, you dont need stainless braided. The stainless is only for safety, the stiffness comes from the internal rubber hose. Most of the firmness people feel from SS lines is that they're nee, and also usually smaller ID.
#4
Duralast will be fine. Lifetime warranty too. If you're not racing, you dont need stainless braided. The stainless is only for safety, the stiffness comes from the internal rubber hose. Most of the firmness people feel from SS lines is that they're nee, and also usually smaller ID.
There's way more issues with the SS products on the market these days than any of the 'over the counter' OE equivalent available at most 'local' jobbers. He!! some SS don't even accommodate OE banjo bolts and hardware. Over the counter OE should also have the correct orientation for the frame brackets. There ain't none of the SS that have that. There should be LF, RF, LR & RR by part #.
If available from NAPA I might choose them.
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YEP!!
There's way more issues with the SS products on the market these days than any of the 'over the counter' OE equivalent available at most 'local' jobbers. He!! some SS don't even accommodate OE banjo bolts and hardware. Over the counter OE should also have the correct orientation for the frame brackets. There ain't none of the SS that have that. There should be LF, RF, LR & RR by part #.
If available from NAPA I might choose them.
There's way more issues with the SS products on the market these days than any of the 'over the counter' OE equivalent available at most 'local' jobbers. He!! some SS don't even accommodate OE banjo bolts and hardware. Over the counter OE should also have the correct orientation for the frame brackets. There ain't none of the SS that have that. There should be LF, RF, LR & RR by part #.
If available from NAPA I might choose them.
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Using SS brake lines on an older caliper has the potential to increase fluid pressure and force the fluid past the O ring seal on the pistons in the caliper. Just like anything else on a car, the brake hose is part of a system. IOW, changing part X, can affect part Y weather or not that was your intention. This is the reason for "while you're in there" syndrome..
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Using SS brake lines on an older caliper has the potential to increase fluid pressure and force the fluid past the O ring seal on the pistons in the caliper. Just like anything else on a car, the brake hose is part of a system. IOW, changing part X, can affect part Y weather or not that was your intention. This is the reason for "while you're in there" syndrome..
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installed Goodridge SS lines on my 85 some 12-15 years ago. no installation issues, and overall, no issues to date. installed them with my original calipers. seem to recall, got the set on fleabay for $110. as a matter of fact, I've installed SS lines on three of the four C4's I've owned.
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installed Goodridge SS lines on my 85 some 12-15 years ago. no installation issues, and overall, no issues to date. installed them with my original calipers. seem to recall, got the set on fleabay for $110. as a matter of fact, I've installed SS lines on three of the four C4's I've owned.
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Your experience 12 - 15 years ago I doubt is the experience with the product out there today. Most of the product out there today is 'an APPEARANCE option'!! OE equivalent from most any 'local' jobber is very consistent. The frame end of all OE are 'indexed' to the frame bracket. I ain't seen SS yet with indexing..
trying to jog my memory - don't remember much about indexing, but i'm thinking it was just a flat on the hole in the bracket that orients the brake lines to the bracket. the flat in the bracket, i'm thinking, is nothing more than an OE production aid. not sure indexing is really necessary for replacement hose assemblies. there is a spring clip the rests in a groove on the stainless end that secures the line junction to the frame bracket (bottom side). as far as todays products, here's the last set I installed on my (white) 90 - about 3-4 years ago - it's the same set installed on my steel blue 90 about 10 years ago. honestly, don't remember having any problems with installation and no issues with indexing or fitment. I really don't think this is an "APPEARANCE option" -
https://www.autoanything.com/brakes/61A3671A0A0.aspx
edit: just checked the original OE hoses on my (steel blue) 90. three of the four are indexed with two keyways (different sizes, about 120° apart). the fourth hose has a different index - one side of the hex is rounded and looks like it was designed for a different type of bracket. the three keyway indexing have date codes -two with 5/90 and one with 04/02/90. the oddball indexing is date coded 10/19/89. I can't swear that these were original to the car, but they may have come from different suppliers - ????
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^^^^^ Another 'PRETTY PICTURE' - Who knows? Most of the current offerings ain't that pretty! The link is an add since the 'image' and I chose only a '93 Corvette @ random. $199 I'd expect quality. For a 'driver' I'll still argue 'overkill' for these and for the rest of the market. I wouldn't touch them. BRANDING gets you 'we believe reasonable assurance of quality'!!
I decision for each and every potential 'customer'!!
NUFF SAID!!
I decision for each and every potential 'customer'!!
NUFF SAID!!
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I guess if I stated in my original post, the negative aspects of SS lines and it's installation, or hammered the Goodridge brand in general, I would have the exact same folks arguing that point with me.
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You got me there. I open the hood for maintenance and when I do, I go straight for the item or a look see for any issue. Not sure if I every was titillated by the hoses or anything there.
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, however it doesn't hurt anything either. most of us have installed components that were either overkill or something that was for just "appearance" on their corvette?
I guess if I stated in my original post, the negative aspects of SS lines and it's installation, or hammered the Goodridge brand in general, I would have the exact same folks arguing that point with me.
I guess if I stated in my original post, the negative aspects of SS lines and it's installation, or hammered the Goodridge brand in general, I would have the exact same folks arguing that point with me.
I would agree to a certain extent. You, me and many others make sure our C4 is in tip top running condition, especially where safety is concerned. That said, the kid who just bought his 130k mile 30 year old C4 sees some nice shiny SS brake lines thinks oh man, Ill be able to brake like an F1 car with those things.... What he doesn't remember or know, is that the 130k mile 30 year old caliper seals are marginal at best. So to aklims point, now the proper pressure is restored... the possibility of a seal failure does exist... maybe not catastrophic or instant failure, but a seep might start... never can tell... Thats all I was getting around to... In my mind, if you replace one part of a system, then you should really look hard at the other parts of that system and make a good educated guess on what might need replacement in addition.... I guess thats just me though...