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the greater leap, C3 to C4 or C4 to C5?

 
Old 07-06-2019, 03:57 PM
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Those cars aren't stock...as in they're not the way the came from the factory. They're blueprinted, balanced, port matched, and other things. This was already discussed in the other thread. Did you read it?? I bet you didn't !

Answer me this? Why didn't mag articles from the era produce trap speeds in the 120's? You know...when the cars were actually STOCK (from the factory), and not hand built "clones"? Why the 10+ mph diff? B/c the cars racing in those classes aren't "as from the factory", even if they're forced to use factory casting # pieces.


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Old 07-07-2019, 01:03 PM
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Power options aside, just in overall drivability, handling, reliability, there is a day and night difference between our C3 and our C4s...day and night!

The C3 is "RUDE, CRUDE, and SOCIALLY UNACCEPTABLE, by comparison. It, and another I resotred, won't hold a candle to the C4s.. The C4 was a quantum leap in all ways and is what rescued Corvette from being deleted at the end of 82.

I've driven ALL of the "Cs" from C1 through C6. Every one is an improvement over the previous generation. But the jump between the C3 to the C4 is quite substantial.

Oh, we like our 69 C3, to be sure. It is very RAW, but truly is a throw back to the muscle cars of its time. The C4 was the intro to a truly modern sports car in every sense of the word.

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The C3 to C4 leap is the greatest IMO. I remember the excitement generated by the C4 when it was introduced and seeing my first one in June 1983. There were so many people around it with it's clamshell up, I could barely see it. After owning the C3 and C4, The C4 is my favorite Vette. The C3 has those beautiful curves, but the C4 is the car that's more pleasant to drive. I'm on my fourth C4 and I'm not not bored with them yet (and probably never will be).
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Old 07-09-2019, 03:12 PM
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I'm going to go rogue and add option C....the biggest leap was from C5 to C6.
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Old 07-09-2019, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy_in_MD View Post
I'm going to go rogue and add option C....the biggest leap was from C5 to C6.
Any particular reason?
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Old 07-09-2019, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevova View Post
Any particular reason?
Headlights, LS2 then LS3 power plants, A6 tranny a few years in, magnetic ride suspension, a few other tidbits.
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Old 07-09-2019, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevova View Post
Any particular reason?
GM was able to get away with reusing an entire frame and driveline and just slap new panels and interior on it and make a killing? Having driven both they're alright.
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Old 07-09-2019, 03:41 PM
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In terms of technology the C4 was the car that brought the Corvette into the world class sports car arena, with the C4 ZR-1 as the crown jewel. With what was learned later C5 to present day cars just kept improving and building on this and never looking back.
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Looking through the thread somehow the factory race cars L88 and ZL1. A drag racer persuaded Chevrolet to build 69 8k Camaros that nobody wanted. It took several years and severe discounts to get them all sold. The lack of ability to order "Club Racer" continues to be a topic. During the breif " Corvette Challenge" Chevrolet considered a stripped model to be as light as possible. Konner " Mr Corvette" talked them out of it. If he hadn't maybe there would have a COPO lightweight C4.
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Old 07-09-2019, 04:00 PM
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I don't believe the Corvette C4 was ever built to be a 1/4 mile car from the factory.
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Originally Posted by FASTAZU View Post
I don't believe the Corvette C4 was ever built to be a 1/4 mile car from the factory.
You are right, it wasn't. The Corvette was designed to be an everything car, especially the C4.The quarter-mile is included in "everything."
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I would say the C3 to the C4 was the greatest jump, easily

I have both the C4s and a C5Z, just see the C3 as a different car and time altogether, cool cars though.
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI View Post
You are right, it wasn't. The Corvette was designed to be an everything car, especially the C4.The quarter-mile is included in "everything."

True, But I do believe the main theme was as a sports car!
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Old 07-11-2019, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy_in_MD View Post
Headlights, LS2 then LS3 power plants, A6 tranny a few years in, magnetic ride suspension, a few other tidbits.
C5s had mag ride iirc? That was also based off the adaptive active suspension prototype C4s from the early 90s too. The C6 is the modern equivalent of the c2 to c3 change. Same running gear with some minor power changes and a revamped body and interior.
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Old 07-11-2019, 11:03 PM
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A well driven late c4 can easily outrun a lesser driver around a track in a c5. I dont think the same can be said of c3 to c4, except maybe something super rare like an L88, but even then. To me, that's a clear indication of that being the biggest jump.
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Old 07-12-2019, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 84 4+3 View Post
The C6 is the modern equivalent of the c2 to c3 change. Same running gear with some minor power changes and a revamped body and interior.
I totally agree. in fact, when they first tested the C6, C&D called it a C5.5.

C5 > C6...definitely NOT a radical or noteworthy change at all.
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I have owned a C3 C4 C5 Coupe and Z06 and a C6 Coupe and Z06.

C3 to C4 = total redesign and a new platform. A totally different car. The C3 sucked. Drove harsh, and the a/c couldn't keep up (I'm in Florida).
C4 to C5 = total redesign and a new platform.A totally different car. Nice car to drive, All were good driving cars (from a 1985, 1990, 1992).
C5 to C6 = rebody, and lots of tweaks to the C5 platform. Not really a huge difference.
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI View Post
I totally agree. in fact, when they first tested the C6, C&D called it a C5.5.

C5 > C6...definitely NOT a radical or noteworthy change at all.
I think the argument could be made the c6 was the first generation to compete at the highest end of the market since the c4, with reintroduction of the zr1. While the underlying platform is similar, they also hit 200mph for the first time, got world class brakes, started using carbon fiber, and had class leading content for the first time since the c4 in the c6 generation.

You could argue that there was more to like in the c5 to c6 jump than c4 to c5.
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Old 07-12-2019, 12:51 PM
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You could. But you couldn't make that argument in '05, which is when the C5>C6 jump happened.

I percieve this thread to be the "biggest jump during the model change". Not the ultimate diff between gens, b/c that conversation gets way too muddy.
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:48 PM
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The little things just become a mess honestly. I agree, introduction to introduction changes only.
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