Help me find the odor...please!
#1
Melting Slicks
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Help me find the odor...please!
I bought my 88 35th Anniversary Edition about 3 weeks ago and although the previous owner kept it in amazing shape, it was in a garage that didn't have a concrete floor - and I think mice might have gotten in the car cause it has a musty / urine smell - especially while driving with the targa off.
I have sprayed Febreeze everywhere - I have put dryer sheets all over the interior for days and days (windows closed and opened) - I even bought Bamboo Charcoal bags and placed them in the car...and the car still has that odor.
I've looked under the seats, in the rear cargo trays, under the floor mats, in the engine compartment...everywhere...and I can't find the source of the odor.
QUESTIONS:
1) Is there a cabin air filter in an 88? If so, Im assuming its location details is in the user manual
2) Could the odor come from the air filter?
3) Are there any compartments in the rear cargo area or under the rear carpet that I should look in/under?
Any help or advice would be most appreciated!!
I have sprayed Febreeze everywhere - I have put dryer sheets all over the interior for days and days (windows closed and opened) - I even bought Bamboo Charcoal bags and placed them in the car...and the car still has that odor.
I've looked under the seats, in the rear cargo trays, under the floor mats, in the engine compartment...everywhere...and I can't find the source of the odor.
QUESTIONS:
1) Is there a cabin air filter in an 88? If so, Im assuming its location details is in the user manual
2) Could the odor come from the air filter?
3) Are there any compartments in the rear cargo area or under the rear carpet that I should look in/under?
Any help or advice would be most appreciated!!
#2
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I bought my 88 35th Anniversary Edition about 3 weeks ago and although the previous owner kept it in amazing shape, it was in a garage that didn't have a concrete floor - and I think mice might have gotten in the car cause it has a musty / urine smell - especially while driving with the targa off.
I have sprayed Febreeze everywhere - I have put dryer sheets all over the interior for days and days (windows closed and opened) - I even bought Bamboo Charcoal bags and placed them in the car...and the car still has that odor.
I've looked under the seats, in the rear cargo trays, under the floor mats, in the engine compartment...everywhere...and I can't find the source of the odor.
QUESTIONS:
1) Is there a cabin air filter in an 88? If so, Im assuming its location details is in the user manual
2) Could the odor come from the air filter?
3) Are there any compartments in the rear cargo area or under the rear carpet that I should look in/under?
Any help or advice would be most appreciated!!
I have sprayed Febreeze everywhere - I have put dryer sheets all over the interior for days and days (windows closed and opened) - I even bought Bamboo Charcoal bags and placed them in the car...and the car still has that odor.
I've looked under the seats, in the rear cargo trays, under the floor mats, in the engine compartment...everywhere...and I can't find the source of the odor.
QUESTIONS:
1) Is there a cabin air filter in an 88? If so, Im assuming its location details is in the user manual
2) Could the odor come from the air filter?
3) Are there any compartments in the rear cargo area or under the rear carpet that I should look in/under?
Any help or advice would be most appreciated!!
Pull the dash pad so you can look down in back of dash. Mice love their nests in there
Pull the radio. Mice love it back there
Check in back of halo sides
Last edited by Cruisinfanatic; 07-10-2019 at 04:02 PM.
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Mayor111 (07-10-2019)
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This is what you need to further deter the mice from coming back and bring back a decent smell to your vet! Mouse Majic is the brand repels mice Bonide is the mfg. As far as clearing the inital smell you have to use Mcguires air bomb found at pep boys or on line. Mice will follow that car to your door step, i had a clutch disc that mice wound the hood insulation around the small areas and had to replace the total Disc preasure plate and flywheel !
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#5
Melting Slicks
You need to find their nest and remove/clean the area. No amount of masking scent is going to chase the smell away. It might make it more bearable to drive but the smell is still there. You are just driving around with nice smelling mouse ****.
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To answer your questions 2 & 3 there is no cabin air filter in the car and there are two compartments under the carpet behind the seats. A deep one on the passenger side and a shallow one on the driver side that has the abs system in it. If they were closed all the time I don't think there is any way mice could get in either but you need to check.
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I pulled the radio out of my 93 and found a mouse nest the size of a basketball behind the dash. Also found a few petrified corpses and bones.
Use gloves and a mask, that stuff is deadly.
Use gloves and a mask, that stuff is deadly.
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Is the smell worse with the AC on? I ask because I had a car that had mold growing on the evaporator coil that smelled musky and could be argued to have a urine type smell to it as well. Since our cars don't have cabin air filters the evaporator can become a massive mess and grow all kinds of stuff in the right environments. It's not uncommon for them to look like the one in the following link:
https://tech.corvettecentral.com/201...vice-bulletin/
Could still be a mouse nest but could also be this. If a mouse made a house out of your car you will generally see pellets to as well as some chewing on things. Not always but that's not uncommon with an infestation.
https://tech.corvettecentral.com/201...vice-bulletin/
Could still be a mouse nest but could also be this. If a mouse made a house out of your car you will generally see pellets to as well as some chewing on things. Not always but that's not uncommon with an infestation.
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These older GM cars hold smells pretty well. The carpet and seat materials make it difficult to get anything out. Once you've gone through the dash, i would suggest pulling the seats and the carpet. Clean the carpets and let them sit out in the hot sun for a few days. I had to do this to my IROC years ago and it yielded good results. Don;t get me wrong. It is a hug PITA, but it worked.
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Is the smell worse with the AC on? I ask because I had a car that had mold growing on the evaporator coil that smelled musky and could be argued to have a urine type smell to it as well. Since our cars don't have cabin air filters the evaporator can become a massive mess and grow all kinds of stuff in the right environments. It's not uncommon for them to look like the one in the following link:
https://tech.corvettecentral.com/201...vice-bulletin/
Could still be a mouse nest but could also be this. If a mouse made a house out of your car you will generally see pellets to as well as some chewing on things. Not always but that's not uncommon with an infestation.
https://tech.corvettecentral.com/201...vice-bulletin/
Could still be a mouse nest but could also be this. If a mouse made a house out of your car you will generally see pellets to as well as some chewing on things. Not always but that's not uncommon with an infestation.
#12
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You need to find the source of the smell. Something that might help is a bore scope like you'd check the inside of an engine cylinder with. You can get that into a lot of places that you otherwise would have to tear the car apart to examine. Here's an idea applicable in other situations - ozone generator. I've used them many times when dealing with furniture that was in house fires. A smell gets into the furniture that was 'present' and pungent. At times even shellacing a piece of furniture would not seal in the smell so alternate methods had to be found. Tenting the furniture piece and putting in an ozone generator eliminated the smell over time. Never tried it on mouse smell but if the source is gone it's worth a try IMO.
Good luck.
Good luck.
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#15
Melting Slicks
first things first. On the engine side of the firewall, on the passenger side, under the HVAC plenum is a soft black rubber tube, say 4 inches long and an inch in diameter. This is the drain for the A/C evaporator plenum. These get clogged up, and with nowhere for condensate off the evaporator to drain to, and out, the accumulated condensate, plus all kinds of organic crap start decomposing and causing odors that never seem to go away. The drain hose just pulls off so cleaning it is easy. It happened on mine, so I suspect that it may have happened on your car too.
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#16
Melting Slicks
"Dime size"? that's like a barn door to a mouse. All the "bones", except for the skull, on a mouse are flexible like rubber and if it can get it's head through a hole, the rest will squeeze through.
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first things first. On the engine side of the firewall, on the passenger side, under the HVAC plenum is a soft black rubber tube, say 4 inches long and an inch in diameter. This is the drain for the A/C evaporator plenum. These get clogged up, and with nowhere for condensate off the evaporator to drain to, and out, the accumulated condensate, plus all kinds of organic crap start decomposing and causing odors that never seem to go away. The drain hose just pulls off so cleaning it is easy. It happened on mine, so I suspect that it may have happened on your car too.
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As for the smell, I would suggest looking in back as well. Remove the rear interior trim panel that covers the hatch solenoid and take a sniff around in there. Mice that get into these cars LOVE the sound deadening foam GM installed back there...it makes for nice nesting material and it makes a cozy home for them.
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