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Old Dec 23, 2021 | 07:11 PM
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Any problems changing the saw blades on a 93 to 17x8.5 on all four wheels instead of the staggered 17x8.5 and 17x9.5 as now? I think the off set is the same.
I just can't foresee a problem but better to ask.
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Old Dec 23, 2021 | 07:43 PM
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i have a 93. I don't know the answer but am posting this to get response notifications when you get an answer.
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Originally Posted by Sprongs
Any problems changing the saw blades on a 93 to 17x8.5 on all four wheels instead of the staggered 17x8.5 and 17x9.5 as now? I think the off set is the same.
I just can't foresee a problem but better to ask.
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Why not ask a store that sells wheels, or tire store that sells tires, they would know what works, cause if they sell you something that doesn't work, law suit.
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Old Dec 23, 2021 | 08:44 PM
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Why not ask a store that sells wheels, or tire store that sells tires, they would know what works, cause if they sell you something that doesn't work, law suit.
Why is "law suit" the first thing that enters some people's minds. No wonder our world is so fkd. Seriously Hoss? A wheel store makes an error and you call your lawyer? No chance to make things right? No room for human error? Straight to the courts? I pity the poor kid at the counter that gives you the wrong burger!
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Old Dec 23, 2021 | 08:46 PM
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Why not have the 9.5's all the way around? From '88 onward, the Z51/Z07 option used all 9.5 wheels.
275/40/17 tires. Still popular

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Old Dec 23, 2021 | 11:18 PM
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I agree I would go 9.5 all around....would never consider downsizing the rear (I would think it would tuck in more and not look as good, the fronts being narrower already tucks in more than I like on my 93. My plan is to go 18inch 10.5s all around at some point
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 08:35 AM
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Thé Z51 9.5 on four corner is the best setup imo
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Thanks for the information on 9.5. Something to consider
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 09:59 AM
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Sprongs, there will be zero issue using the 17x8.5 wheels all around, but you will need the proper tire size to go with them: 245/45/17 or 255/45/17. Don't try to use 275/40/17 on them. They are too narrow for that tire size. As others have said, 17x9.5 at all four corners with 275/40/17 would be preferable from a performance standpoint. But...

I'm assuming you already have a set of "staggered" 8.5/9.5 base sawblade wheels for your car? And I see you live in Michigan. If you get another staggered set of sawblades (which you can usually find cheap), you could then have a full set of 17x9.5 with "summer" (really "three season") tires in 275/40/17 and a full set of 17x8.5 with winter-oriented tires for, you know, winter. That's what I'd do in your situation.
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Winter tires? I would hope he has a winter rat Corvette for that white stuff…
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 11:47 AM
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Thanks, with the tire size. Think I will go with the 9.5 wheels. The Vette is stored in the winter.
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sprongs
Thanks, with the tire size. Think I will go with the 9.5 wheels. The Vette is stored in the winter.
Fair enough. You'll be much happier with the 9.5s, both in terms of looks and performance.
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I put a set of Cray's on my 93 and they 17X9 all 4. I used my original tires and they work fine. I couldn't tell any difference but then I just drive on the highway.
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Originally Posted by KurtK
Why not have the 9.5's all the way around? From '88 onward, the Z51/Z07 option used all 9.5 wheels.
275/40/17 tires. Still popular

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Form 89 thru 92 the base configuration was 9.5 all around so even if you didn't have the Z51/Z07 option you still had 9.5s all around.

OP just so you understand what drove GM to the 8.5's up front on base cars.

This was posted in another thread on this same subject by corvetteronw

GM Press release Sept 92 as quoted in Mike Antonik's Cor-Vette Specs C4 book: "The ride and handling of the ZR-1 inspired the engineers to change the wheel and tire size on the standard Corvette. The coupe and convertible are now equipped with 17 X 8.5 in. wheels up front and 17 X 9.5 in. wheels in the rear. (The '92 models were equipped with four, 17 X 9.5 in. wheels.) The new wheels are mated to P255/45ZR17 and P285/40ZR17 tires respectively. The change is designed to balance tractive efforts--fore, aft and laterally."
"The exception to this was the RPO Z07 suspension package which dispensed with the smaller wheels and tires up front and went with the bigger rims and P285/40ZR1s front and rear."
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Originally Posted by belairbrian
GM Press release Sept 92 as quoted in Mike Antonik's Cor-Vette Specs C4 book: "The ride and handling of the ZR-1 inspired the engineers to change the wheel and tire size on the standard Corvette. The coupe and convertible are now equipped with 17 X 8.5 in. wheels up front and 17 X 9.5 in. wheels in the rear. (The '92 models were equipped with four, 17 X 9.5 in. wheels.) The new wheels are mated to P255/45ZR17 and P285/40ZR17 tires respectively. The change is designed to balance tractive efforts--fore, aft and laterally."
That's a type of faux-engineering marketing gobbledeegook. It doesn't mean anything. No Corvette ever improved its tractive efforts by going to smaller front tires. Anyone who races a Corvette will tell you that you should use the widest wheels and tires that the rules will allow. They went to the narrow 8.5 wheels up front on base Corvettes in order to reduce tramlining, and they put balloon tires on it to give a cushier ride to all the old people who were buying them and complaining about ride harshness. This was also the time they started putting softer and softer springs in the car. But for best tractive efforts in all directions, you clearly don't use narrower wheels and tires.
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Originally Posted by MatthewMiller
That's a type of faux-engineering marketing gobbledeegook. It doesn't mean anything. No Corvette ever improved its tractive efforts by going to smaller front tires. Anyone who races a Corvette will tell you that you should use the widest wheels and tires that the rules will allow. They went to the narrow 8.5 wheels up front on base Corvettes in order to reduce tramlining, and they put balloon tires on it to give a cushier ride to all the old people who were buying them and complaining about ride harshness. This was also the time they started putting softer and softer springs in the car. But for best tractive efforts in all directions, you clearly don't use narrower wheels and tires.
Yup, I suspect cost savings also helped, and they realized they could make more money in service departments with tires that can't be rotated. If they waned to cha ge anything "tractove", it was to ad understeer so shitty drivers were less likely to cause injuries to others in the cars. Understeer you crash into the guardrail. Oversteer you take out the minivan full of kids net to you too. Guess which one opens GM u to more liability for "selling an unsafe car".

The handling package added the 9.5" wheels back, so what does that tell you? They are better, that's what.
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