does this work?
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does this work?
I am going to do ehaust dumping, already have bosch plat 2's in the front, dunlop racing tires, and now reealized it struggles for air.
is this any good?
http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?d...F7S4XCWLFQ3QM2
what other mods are good? Cheap ones? I also have no idea how to do a TB bypass.
Does this make a difference too?
http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?d...F7S4XCWLFQ3QM2
so could I expect a 15 hp gain from dumping, 15 from the filter, and 10 for that? So 40 hp? Seems like a decent amount. Do sparks add any? Or the facts its only got 24k miles?
Does the spare slow it down any?
is this any good?
http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?d...F7S4XCWLFQ3QM2
what other mods are good? Cheap ones? I also have no idea how to do a TB bypass.
Does this make a difference too?
http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?d...F7S4XCWLFQ3QM2
so could I expect a 15 hp gain from dumping, 15 from the filter, and 10 for that? So 40 hp? Seems like a decent amount. Do sparks add any? Or the facts its only got 24k miles?
Does the spare slow it down any?
Last edited by MrArmyAnt; Dec 7, 2004 at 05:01 PM.
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no they are not worth anything, you will see barely any gains, maybe a few HP from the intake but your better off just cutting your air lid or buy the cut air lid.
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Also remember if horsepower was so cheap and easy to get we would all be driving around in 600 hp cars.
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Also remember if horsepower was so cheap and easy to get we would all be driving around in 600 hp cars.
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From: St. Peters MO Sometimes you have to prove yourself by doing alot of killing or alot of dying...
If you are trying to ask if this will provide a significant power gain... well... kind of. It is no different than cutting the existing lid on your stock air filter cover. The reason is that the stock air box has to flatten out to clear the hood... and it already takes up all the space provided. Any aftermarket piece that you buy will essentially do the same. You are better off cutting your existing lid and getting a K&N
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Read this
http://www.wku.edu/~nathan.plemons/h...rformance.html
Specifically this
http://www.wku.edu/~nathan.plemons/htmls/increase.html
As for your plans to work on the exhaust, what you are referring to is more commonly referred to as "cut-outs" and they must be used with caution. If the cut-out is placed too far forward you will have very little exhaust backpressure and it'll actually cost you low end torque and you won't make it back up with a major increase in upper RPM horsepower.
Place it further back towards the muffler and you might see some benefit, the pipe allows enough backpressure while the cut-out bypasses the restrictive muffler. It can be worth about 10-15 horsepower an LT1 F-body if proper placed back near the muffler. If you place the same cut-out up front on the F-body where it looks like it would easily go, it'll just make noise and won't help your performance at all.
The other problem in the theory though is that the LT1 Vette exhaust is less restrictive than the F-body exhaust. There is likely very little if any power to actually be found by doing it.
http://www.wku.edu/~nathan.plemons/h...rformance.html
Specifically this
http://www.wku.edu/~nathan.plemons/htmls/increase.html
As for your plans to work on the exhaust, what you are referring to is more commonly referred to as "cut-outs" and they must be used with caution. If the cut-out is placed too far forward you will have very little exhaust backpressure and it'll actually cost you low end torque and you won't make it back up with a major increase in upper RPM horsepower.
Place it further back towards the muffler and you might see some benefit, the pipe allows enough backpressure while the cut-out bypasses the restrictive muffler. It can be worth about 10-15 horsepower an LT1 F-body if proper placed back near the muffler. If you place the same cut-out up front on the F-body where it looks like it would easily go, it'll just make noise and won't help your performance at all.
The other problem in the theory though is that the LT1 Vette exhaust is less restrictive than the F-body exhaust. There is likely very little if any power to actually be found by doing it.
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Originally Posted by MrArmyAnt
So then im back to flowmaster 40's for 320 bucks installed. What about the tfoil?
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Ok, so now that everything I thought I knew has been destroyed, by that article, what is the first thing I should do, after the airfilter? Cheapest too? That article was a lot of info to take in, and actaul product names are good too.
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From: SCMR Rat Pack'r Charter Member..Great Bend KS
Originally Posted by n1kki6
if horsepower was so cheap and easy to get we would all be driving around in 600 hp cars.
Hey! That's my quote!
The airfoil is worthless, the cold air intake is worth a little (figure about $100 per hp).
Like n1kki6 says, real horsepower costs real money.
Larry
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Originally Posted by code5coupe
Hey! That's my quote!
The airfoil is worthless, the cold air intake is worth a little (figure about $100 per hp).
Like n1kki6 says, real horsepower costs real money.
Larry
The airfoil is worthless, the cold air intake is worth a little (figure about $100 per hp).
Like n1kki6 says, real horsepower costs real money.
Larry
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Originally Posted by MrArmyAnt
I think the electric water pump is a good idea, um where do I get one 
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Originally Posted by MrArmyAnt
Ok, so now that everything I thought I knew has been destroyed, by that article, what is the first thing I should do, after the airfilter? Cheapest too? That article was a lot of info to take in, and actaul product names are good too.
Speed is money, how fast you want to go?
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From: San Jose Pat Tillman - American Hero
Maybe I'm just being a little conservative in my thoughts, as it's easy to see that this guy is new and wants to start moddding his 'Vette. I would have to say that, although worthwhile, doing an electic WP is not really a "beginner" mod. EsPECIALLY if his factory WP is fine. When it goes (and it will), then switch to the electric if you're so inclined. Just be aware that it's not a simple "drop it in and bolt it up" kind of thing.
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It's pretty straightforward so long as you don't mind a potential oil leak. If you want to remedy that problem then it's a PITA.
To technically make it work the hardest part is in cleaning the old water pump gasket surface, and then doing the wiring.
To technically make it work the hardest part is in cleaning the old water pump gasket surface, and then doing the wiring.
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From: San Jose Pat Tillman - American Hero
Originally Posted by Nathan Plemons
It's pretty straightforward so long as you don't mind a potential oil leak. If you want to remedy that problem then it's a PITA.
To technically make it work the hardest part is in cleaning the old water pump gasket surface, and then doing the wiring.
To technically make it work the hardest part is in cleaning the old water pump gasket surface, and then doing the wiring.
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Originally Posted by Perfusion
Fair enough... I just imagine this guy buying the pump, and then taking his car into the local Chevy dealer and saying, "Here...put this in." If he's got a local (trusted) mechanic who's got some experience with Vettes, I'd say go for it. Unfortunately, his profile's not filled out, so I don't know his circumstances...
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If your vette is a daily driver, I'd stay with a mechanical waterpump. A lot of $$ and hassle for little gain. Try upgrading your exhaust, rocker arms, Intake system for a start. Plemons seems to know his way around LT-1's pretty well.