Cory@LS2PortWorks

SURPRISINGLY... It was the same price as a LT1 SS3200 or a LS1 SS3200. I was very amazed myself. I know $675 seems like a lot of money... but honestly the performance the $300 level convertors deliver is very disappointing in terms of STR and shift rpm extension. None of the cheap ones have ever worked out for me.

LOL I misread that as "JARS hitting the floor" and though you meant it was expensive (like the coin jars in my house...). Well at least my comment was worthwhile.. LOL!

Jeffvette

No, because most people are wanting a 6 speed.

Cory@LS2PortWorks

A 6 speed would be cool... but the 6 in my CTSV is completely satisfying. I prefer automatics behind the level of hp I like these days.

A 6 speed is not going to be much if any more difficult for the next guy to adapt. It just takes patience and the willingness to finish the job even when it gets difficult and you have to find your own way.

It'll come soon. One of these other guys will do it. Hopefully he will document it!

Jeffvette

Been planning on building a race car with a LS1/2 and a 6 speed. I'm just spread out so far. I may not ever get to it, although I will have a fresh LS2 in my hands shortly.

Slalom4me

Well, call me a rube but I'd never heard of mixing front
and rear converter faces from different applications in
order to perform a swap.

I still think this is an innovative solution. Hats off to
CHarris85Vette and the other folks working together
to bring this package together.

.

Slalom4me

Less than I'd expect to pay for a Vigilante and
it solves a thorny problem. Hey, what's not to like?

I laughed about the 'jars'

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CAP94

Nice, looks sweet

Ramanstud

this is pretty wild - I think the "cool" factor is definitely there...

but what do you think the total cost for this conversion will be? Seems like you're tossing around quite a bit of money - and you even know what your doing. I could imagine myself getting waist deep in parts on this and having it turn into a money pit.... what do you think your total cost will be?

(if that's not rude of me to ask?)

Cory@LS2PortWorks

It's not rude at all. And it is costing a bit more than I expected. Most of the added expense is in the details. Example... the bolts that don't come with the parts you buy.

Heres my running tab so far...

$1000 - 6.0 long block with covers RCVD as part trade/value assigned
$180 - price for Corvette ZO6 oilpan
-$80 - sold truck oilpan
$50 - C5 fuel rail from forum
$325 - LS6 intake from Performancetrucks.net member
$90 - 85 mm MAF (new) from LS1tech
$110 - C5 Accessory brackets From Forum
$140 - Coil packs from LS1tech
$130 - ZO6 exhst manifolds, h-pipe with cats (exhst needs mods to fit)
(from forum)
$120 - C5 waterpump, T-stat, sparkplug wires from Forum
$60 - ZO6 Airbridge and intake items From Forum
$725 -Yank convertor (w/shipping)
$50 - ebay engine mount adapters
$50 - ebay score on ARP head bolts
$150 - cam from Performancetrucks.net forum
$160 - used C5 Alternator from KARSHOP
$14 - ebay auction for fuel line
$104 - ebay power steering pump
$50 - ebay powersteering reservoir
$57 - ebay used starter
$20 - ebay oil dipstick and tube
$50 - ebay used tensioner
$32 - ebay used A/c bracket tensioner
$15 - ebay power steering pump pulley
$150 - new cable Throttle Body from LPE
$10 - ebay oil cap and spouot (DIDN'T FIT...)
$10 - ebay power steering hi-press line
$40 - corvette balancer from forum
$65 - 6.0 head gaskets from forum
$550 - Wireharness from Nelson Performance
$425 - Tune from Nelson Performance
$150 - PCM and core fee from Nelson Performance
$1500 - Transmission hardparts and upgrade from 700R4 to 4L60E
$140 - misc small parts,idler pulley, bolts, knock sensors, PS reservoir bracket (Fred Beans!)
$60 - Lokar 48 inch throttle cable from Summit
$80 - 5 inch exhaust pipe for intermediate pipe. Squashed to oval for free.
$100 - Various mandrel bends to connect exhaust pipes and mufflers
Subtotal $7052

It helps a lot that I've rolled old project parts into the new ones.

Cory@LS2PortWorks

Now... one can clearly see how it is VERY advantageous to buy a complete engine with accessories and perhaps even the transmission. It probably costs less in the long run!

Shopping online forums is key as well.

In my particular case... I turned over A LOT of parts I had accumulated for SBC's and BBC's. Effectively, I had a bank account of parts that I traded for other parts...

Ram Air Formula

i know this is for a different setup but has anyone solved the motor mounts when using a manual transmission set up problem? werent they like 1/4" off or something?

i really like the work your doing. good luck getting it finished and running.

mos90

i just dont see the reason to go threw all that. yes, ls engines are very nice, but you can make 600hp with a gen 1 sb fairly easy. and 800hp with a supercharger by accident. so why??? unless you just want to say you did it.

86VX1

are you having any clearance issues with the use of stock c5 exhaust manifolds? how much clearance do you have between the balancer and the rack and pinion? what parts of the original 91 vert power steering will you be using? will you be using a c5 power steering pump and the reservoir? so i'm guessing that you will have to find some way of connecting the 91 vert power steering hoses to the c5 parts? am i correct?

PatsLs1vette

Looking good cory,keep up the progress,im hoping to make my maiden voyage out this weekend with it.

Scooter70

LS1 swaps rule!!

Cory@LS2PortWorks

You're right... sort of.

Yes, a SBC can make 600 hp if built properly. But it won't be very street friendly UNLESS its a turbo or supercharger car. Yes they can make 800 hp, too. But none of those- NA, Supercharger or Turbo SBC- can be built as cheaply as a 550 hp NA LSx engine. And the LSx WILL have the better manners as far as NA goes.

SBC cost per hp vs. LSx cost per hp, the LSx wins out in my book, too. STOCK 6.0 truck heads flow as good as max ported L98 114 heads. Port the 6.0 heads and they smoke the ported L98's altogether. Airflow is HP... simple fact. Used 6.0 heads go for less than $500.

Cory@LS2PortWorks

Everything does fit. I'll be able to post more pics very soon. I'll shoot photos of all the clearance questions, too.

Cory@LS2PortWorks

I was pretty happy to see that video you posted of it idling! Had to show my wife, too. So she could see I wasn't the only one!

Cory@LS2PortWorks

I had opportunity last week to compare a C4 and a C5 power steering pump. Some may wonder if they can be interchanged. My firm belief is that they can indeed be interchanged freely. The only discernable difference is that the C5 pump has a little bend on the low pressure side piping that allows it to specifically clear the the new C5 bracketry. All threads correspond between the two. They even look alike when partially disassembled.

Heres a link to some pics to show what I'm talking about...
click on the photos for additional notes on some pics!

http://community.webshots.com/album/548383126qgLSNx


I think a person could bend the pipe on the C4 a little and save the cost of obtaining a C5 pump if money were an issue. As I already purchased a C5 pump... I'll be using the C5 pump.

Cory@LS2PortWorks

Here are some pics of my Yank SS3200 that I'll be using for this swap. This one will mate a LS1 engine to a LT1 era 4L60E. Yank is more than happy to build this but you must be precise on what you ask for. LQ4 can be misinterpreted as LT4 quite easily on the telephone. That was a near miss!

Here are the pics:
click on the photos to open up additional notes on some pics!
http://community.webshots.com/album/548384518qJKELn

I also laid a SBC flexplate on this front cover for a couple of pics to help illustrate the differences between the SBC/LT1 flexplate and a LS1 flexplate. They show the size difference in the convertor snout and bolt holes.


I just heard my transmission is complete so I can start the final assembly and install of the drivetrain. My wire harness should be here very soon, too!