AFR180 Head/Valve Cover Gasket sealing problem
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AFR180 Head/Valve Cover Gasket sealing problem
I've got the AFR180 heads that accept dual pattern valve covers. I'm switching to the center bolt type covers and the covers are not sealing well and oil drips out alot. Tightened the bolts but still no real improvement. Drip tabs have been removed too. Has anyone had this situation? TIA
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Originally Posted by GRX
I've got the AFR180 heads that accept dual pattern valve covers. I'm switching to the center bolt type covers and the covers are not sealing well and oil drips out alot. Tightened the bolts but still no real improvement.
I have the 190's center bolt etc. What I did was use a smear of sealant all the way around, between the gasket and the valve cover. I made sure the head side was cleaned first, put covers on and tightened from center out evenly and gradully till tightened, and no leaks. I also noticed that the V.covers can be postioned not exactly straight (some room top to bottom)tried to center the best possible (I hate saying this for fear of the corvette jinx)Hope this helps
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What? I thought tyhe center valve covers were supposed to seal BETTER than the old style 4 bolt versions? This is ridiculous. Why in the heck did I bother switching over to these? I hate GM more each day. unfreakin' believeable, it seems just the SLIGHTEST attempt to do something on this car is a nightmare.
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They're '86 center bolt covers with Comp pro magnumn rockers. I'm thinking: should I remove the ribs on the inside of the cover? The drip tabs are already flushly cut.
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On my LT1 I had to remove the Valve covers inside ridge all the way around because the AFR heads are thicker at the mating surface then the stock GM heads. BTW this is a problem because you are trying after market heads on a GM motor so bashing GM because their VCs don't work with a set of AFR heads is a little off the mark IMHO. Without the ridge removed the covers would not press against the gasket and make a good seal.
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I used the GMP ones W/ their covers and they seal fine. Those fel-pro look much better than what I currently using.
I also asked which cover you were using because on mine I had to use the shorter stock L98 bolts. The AFR's are not tapped deep enough for the GMP bolts they ship w/their covers. The replacement bolts end up being to long and bottoming out, preventing the cover from being tightened to the head properly.
I also asked which cover you were using because on mine I had to use the shorter stock L98 bolts. The AFR's are not tapped deep enough for the GMP bolts they ship w/their covers. The replacement bolts end up being to long and bottoming out, preventing the cover from being tightened to the head properly.
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Went back to the '85 covers. Those things have tons of headroom! The centerbolt cover go into storage.
Used some 'play-dough' and it showed an interference with the polylocks and the cover.
Used some 'play-dough' and it showed an interference with the polylocks and the cover.
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Have come to the conclusion that these AFR head's valve sealing 'lip' is LOWER than GM's. Hence what I went through yesterday. Of course, I don't have GM ones lying around to do a comparison.
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Originally Posted by FD2BLK
On my LT1 I had to remove the Valve covers inside ridge all the way around because the AFR heads are thicker at the mating surface then the stock GM heads. BTW this is a problem because you are trying after market heads on a GM motor so bashing GM because their VCs don't work with a set of AFR heads is a little off the mark IMHO. Without the ridge removed the covers would not press against the gasket and make a good seal.
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Originally Posted by Redmenace
Had this same problem with Edelbrock heads on an L98. Took me awhile to figure out that inside ridge was contacting at the back of the head and preventing the cover from laying on the sealing surface.
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Originally Posted by Corvette0096
That was the only gasket that would seal my AFR
PS, does any one have more info on the new AFR heads?
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Weird, the tech at AFR told me that I didn't need to remove that on mine.
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Originally Posted by Redmenace
Had this same problem with Edelbrock heads on an L98. Took me awhile to figure out that inside ridge was contacting at the back of the head and preventing the cover from laying on the sealing surface.
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i agree with robs87, same problem here, then i asked my mechanic to machine the inner lip from each vc end, i forget the amount removed but it was a quick easy job. gmpp proforms, centerbolts. that way, the vc's seat properly on the wider-railed AFR heads.
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http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/fram...utorparts.html
I couldn't get the exact link but if you follow the link above, then scroll down and click the link for "Valve Covers", then scroll through the valve covers to "141-130 GM 12497978 SBC Die Cast Polished Valve Cover" and click on the link that says "Inner Lip Milling" it has pics and instructions how to do it. Hope this gets you there, if not let me know
I couldn't get the exact link but if you follow the link above, then scroll down and click the link for "Valve Covers", then scroll through the valve covers to "141-130 GM 12497978 SBC Die Cast Polished Valve Cover" and click on the link that says "Inner Lip Milling" it has pics and instructions how to do it. Hope this gets you there, if not let me know