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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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I've been having a strange "clunk" that I feel (and hear) all the way up through the brake pedal when I'm backing out of a drive way. Happens one time after about 10-12ft of backing. First time I thought I ran over a tool or something. It seems to be coming from the rear but I can't swear to it since I can't make it happen on demand (where someone can be listening for where it's coming from). You can feel it through the brake pedal but not the steering wheel. It only happens once and pulling foreward and back again does nothing. Stop for 10 minutes and back out of a parking place and "clunk". Try to make it happen in the street by backing, going foreward does nothing. Seems like something in the suspension slowly creeping foreward while driving then suddenly moving backwards when I touch the brakes in reverse?????????

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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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Have you pulled the rear wheels, and looked around under there? Sometimes its helpfully to have someone outside the car to listen for the noises.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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backing out clunks are usually wore out u-joints
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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U-joints probably
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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U-joints probably
I'll check them. Have tried to get the clunk under controlled conditions (someone listening) and can't get it to clunk. Wait till next morning when there isn't anyone else around and "clunk" it goes.. Might be worth doing the U-joints just because they have been under there a long time I suspect. Any big deal changing the joints out? Well, any bigger than changing any other u-joint? Last ones I did where on a Trooper and where glued in place, almost impossible to get them out! Hopefully that isn't the case here.. Arlon
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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The half-shaft U-joints are not TOO bad, and there are a lot of intructions on how to do the job, throughout the forum. About a 4-5 hour job if cleaning is a priority when doing the job.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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......when you back out of your driveway for instance, do you hear what you describe as a "clunk", and then a moan or groan from the back, and then does the brake pedal appear to go down a bit that you can feel?....

..if the car is being shifted into gear with foot on the brake and with a very mild acceleration, i would say u-joints or maybe an extremely worn wheel bearing (but that's a reach). if ya hear a clunk with every acceleration from a standing start, i would say u-joints for sure....please advise as to the first paragraph...

...i have changed out rear wheel bearings and u-joints and the rear end is "tight" and i have the above in 1st paragraph. i equate that to the abs self test.....this only happens when i back out of my driveway...i have no vibrations or any other "rolling" symptoms and the car operates in motion spectacularly........
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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......when you back out of your driveway for instance, do you hear what you describe as a "clunk", and then a moan or groan from the back, and then does the brake pedal appear to go down a bit that you can feel?....

..if the car is being shifted into gear with foot on the brake and with a very mild acceleration, i would say u-joints or maybe an extremely worn wheel bearing (but that's a reach). if ya hear a clunk with every acceleration from a standing start, i would say u-joints for sure....please advise as to the first paragraph...

...i have changed out rear wheel bearings and u-joints and the rear end is "tight" and i have the above in 1st paragraph. i equate that to the abs self test.....this only happens when i back out of my driveway...i have no vibrations or any other "rolling" symptoms and the car operates in motion spectacularly........

Sorry, was in Oklahoma for most of the last week..
What you have posted sounds exactly like what I experience. Car has to be sitting, off for awhile before I can get it to clunk and the brake pedal does drop. Once it's done once, it's perfect until I park it then "clunk" the first time I back it up. Surely hadn't thought about abs.. It's impossible to dublicate a second time without parking the car and letting it sit for a few minutes with the ignition off.
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Originally Posted by Arlon
Sorry, was in Oklahoma for most of the last week..
What you have posted sounds exactly like what I experience. Car has to be sitting, off for awhile before I can get it to clunk and the brake pedal does drop. Once it's done once, it's perfect until I park it then "clunk" the first time I back it up. Surely hadn't thought about abs.. It's impossible to dublicate a second time without parking the car and letting it sit for a few minutes with the ignition off.
.....using the word "clunk" will alert most people into saying that it is a gear box, transmission, or u-joint problem but, it isn't always so. if you have eliminated these, i would not worry about it......
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It is the ABS system checking itself before take off. Mine does the same thing and the ABS system lights on the DIC at the same time.
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....i thought i just told him that.
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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Maybe not abs.. I replaced the the pads and rotors this weekend and the clunk is completely gone. The rear pads where installed wrong with one side of the little pressure spring clips poking up over the top of the caliper rather than being under it. I think is was the pads sticking and breaking loose on that first backup.. No noise now and now bump feel in the break pedal. It feels like a car is supposed to feel in my opinion.

Getting all the bugs slowly worked out of it.. I'm starting to like it a little better now. Idle is fine, brakes are fine. Half of the weatherstrip is done, other half will go in this weekend (if all goes according to plan). Most of the rattles are gone. Wheels still look like crap after 20 years of total neglect .. One weekend at a time.. Arlon
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