Oil change...Opinion?
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Switching to synthetic on a high mileage engine can cause leaks and cause things to get plugged up with sludge, this is because the synthetic actually cleans too well and starts unsticking buildup that may already be in the engine sometimes causing it to plug up other things like oil pump pickup screan, oil filters etc. It doesn't exactly cause leaks, it just allowed leaks that were already there to leak better due to the cleaning away of the sludge thats plugging them up and slowing/stopping the leak. There are many different opinions on this topic. Personally I wouldn't hesitate to switch to synthetic on a high mileage engine provided its been well maintained and isn't a sludge bucket, the only problem is its hard to know for sure unless you're the one who put all those miles on it and knows how it was maintained
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True there is no need for synthetic oils in most applications, hell even cars that come filled with it from the factory could get by on dino oil, however there are many benefits to using synthetic over regular dino oil, among them is the superior ability to flow in cold weather conditions compared to petrolium based oils, reduced friction due to smaller molecules than that of pertrolium based oils which equates to longer engine life and better economy(also the reason they tend to leak easier and appear to cause more oil consumption) and even a little more power due to the reduced friction, superior cleaning properties, and they can be changed at a longer interval (although I'd personally change it at the normal 3k). These reasons alone are good enough for me. You can appreciate the benefits of synthetics if you've ever torn down an engine which was properly maintained with synthetic oil and compared it to an engine of similar mileage that was properly maintained with petrolium based lubricant. The difference in wear on the two is something to be seen.
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True there is no need for synthetic oils in most applications, hell even cars that come filled with it from the factory could get by on dino oil, however there are many benefits to using synthetic over regular dino oil, among them is the superior ability to flow in cold weather conditions compared to petrolium based oils, reduced friction due to smaller molecules than that of pertrolium based oils which equates to longer engine life and better economy(also the reason they tend to leak easier and appear to cause more oil consumption) and even a little more power due to the reduced friction, superior cleaning properties, and they can be changed at a longer interval (although I'd personally change it at the normal 3k). These reasons alone are good enough for me. You can appreciate the benefits of synthetics if you've ever torn down an engine which was properly maintained with synthetic oil and compared it to an engine of similar mileage that was properly maintained with petrolium based lubricant. The difference in wear on the two is something to be seen.
The price is not important. Whats a few bux now then later down the road could save me from a engine rebuild. Id rather be safe and spend a little than be sorry sitting on the side of the road and be spending a couple grand....JMO
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My 95 has 220,505 miles on it. The previous owner always ran synthetic in it. She ran it hot one day and the head gasket let go. It sat for about 11 months before I bought it and pulled the engine. The crank, rods, and pistons all checked within factory tolerances. There was no rust in the block at all even though the engine had water in the oil for 11 months. Inside the engine was pretty clean, no sludge at all. I have always been a fan of synthetics and certainly am after seeing the results.
As far as switching a high mileage vehicle to synthetics goes...I switched my 96 Tahoe to synthetic at 185k miles a few months after I bought it. I used the owners manual recommended 5w30 weight. Never had a problem with it, no leaks, nothing. Switching to synthetic will not cause harm to an engine.
As far as switching a high mileage vehicle to synthetics goes...I switched my 96 Tahoe to synthetic at 185k miles a few months after I bought it. I used the owners manual recommended 5w30 weight. Never had a problem with it, no leaks, nothing. Switching to synthetic will not cause harm to an engine.
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If there is gunk in there its coming out. If it leaks, it will eventually seal itself back up. Id rather clean the gunk out and have it leak then seal it up with old oil....Thanks for the responses.
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For the Pennzoil....I used this brand 5w-30 in a 03 Grand Prix GT bought new. This was the only brand I used throughout 55,000 miles until I sold it recently. After the factory 36,000 mile warranty ran out. About 43,000 miles, I started noticing a oil leak down the rear of the engine block. Never found were it was coming from and would have probably had to pull the motor to see. From now on, Pennzoil will not go into my engines. Just thought I would share my troubles.
Not sure if it was a coincedence or just bad luck.
Not sure if it was a coincedence or just bad luck.
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sorry to but in on this one, but if you have any small oil leaks the synthetic might not be a good idea, it works great, but on older engines with more weart on seals and gaskets it might find its way to the outside, im using a synthetic blend for now just so i can see how that holds up, but if your motor is pretty tight the mobile 1 is the best out there is my opinion
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For the Pennzoil....I used this brand 5w-30 in a 03 Grand Prix GT bought new. This was the only brand I used throughout 55,000 miles until I sold it recently. After the factory 36,000 mile warranty ran out. About 43,000 miles, I started noticing a oil leak down the rear of the engine block. Never found were it was coming from and would have probably had to pull the motor to see. From now on, Pennzoil will not go into my engines. Just thought I would share my troubles.
Not sure if it was a coincedence or just bad luck.
Not sure if it was a coincedence or just bad luck.
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I have run synthetics (Mobil 1 or Castrol Syntec) exclusively in all of my vehicles for about the last 20 years. I've never had an oil related issue, leaking or otherwise. I use an oil change interval of 9000 miles or once a year, whichever comes first.
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9,000??? That is not a good idea.
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From everything I've read here and given the age of our Vettes, the one common denominator is what oil was used from the start. It would be nice if we all knew who the original owners were and what they used. That being said however, I bought my 88 5 years ago with 60K on the clock. One of the first things I did was change all the fluids using 5w/30 mobil1 synthetic. I am now at 117K and have yet to see any spots on the garage floor.
Mobil1 for me with either a purolator or AC delco filter and every 3000 miles. I've been known to reschedule dental appts around my oil changes....
Mobil1 for me with either a purolator or AC delco filter and every 3000 miles. I've been known to reschedule dental appts around my oil changes....
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My dad says 3,000. Like I said hes "old fashioned" Yea, it would be nice to get to talk too the previous owners. Find out everything about it, what was done, how hard it was driven.