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Old May 6, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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'94, LT1, 6 speed, stock. a friend of mine has a '92. He said he put a "chip" in it and it really made a difference. A mechanic told me the same thing? where do i go to get one and is it worth the price? i see themon ebay from $19.95 to $300+. with claims of 22-35 horse power. will i really notice a difference? thank you,
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Old May 6, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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No chip in your car, yours as a programmable PCM vs the 93 and earlier with their ECM's which you can have a new chip burned. But for a stock car, not much is to be gained, why mess with reliability?
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For the 94 I'm not 100% sure, but I believe you need the programmer, and that is the $300 option. Mine is a 95 and I noticed a 'seat of the pants' difference. It really seems to flatten out the torque curve and I can scratch second gear with it. I've seen a lot of people really bash the programmers and chips and recommend going with a professional dyno tune, which depending on where you live could run $500-$900. I will certainly be going that route soon, but I have enjoyed my programmer for many years now.
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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo
No chip in your car, yours as a programmable PCM vs the 93 and earlier with their ECM's which you can have a new chip burned. But for a stock car, not much is to be gained, why mess with reliability?
So for a car realativley stock with say a intake, exaust, and maybe fuel injectors would not help? What about better gas mileage? What do you mean reliabliity?
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All generic chips are equally worthless.

No chips until significant mods are done which require it.
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Originally Posted by N.C. Kid
So for a car realativley stock with say a intake, exaust, and maybe fuel injectors would not help? What about better gas mileage? What do you mean reliabliity?
I'm not well versed in advantages or disadvantages with burning chips or tuning a PCM, but I have seen many folks do things to their computers and royally screw things up.

As for reliability, you can't beat what the factory gave you. Stock is reliable, modded not as much(depending on who did it and what was done).
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Ok. Thanks. So pretty much until you start swapping out cam, heads, pistions....You will need a retune. That definatley be awhile. Thanks again.
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Default Cheap chip

I bought one of the 20$ ones for the Mustang I had before my Vette and all it did was convince the engine it was warmer than it really was, which meant the choke didn't work and it was undrivable in cold weather. Stay away!
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I have the good fortue of living just about 1.5 hours away from Doug Ripey's Motorsports shop. I asked about the benefits of doing a "chip" for my mostly stock '91. The comment I got was that doing the chip right requires some time on the dyno to determine if a particular setting helped or hurt your overall performance. For the most part, the power is there to be gained primarily from settng the air/fuel ratio to an optimum level. The factory setting often favors a rich setting in order to protect the engine from detonation. Also, the chip can give a shift point for automatics more in keeping with the intended use of the car. This, then, gives a more appropriate seat-of-the-pants feel to the driver. Setting the fans to come on a at certain temprature is also useful if engine heat during idle is a concern.
At any rate, all this work would cost in the range of $550. to $600. to be done professionally. Potential gains in usable power would be in the 25 - 30 hp range - primarily from optimizing various settings.
Personally, I think this is pretty cheap horsepower. When I finally get my C6 his shop will b the first place I bring it.
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At any rate, all this work would cost in the range of $550. to $600. to be done professionally. Potential gains in usable power would be in the 25 - 30 hp range - primarily from optimizing various settings.
Personally, I think this is pretty cheap horsepower.
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I don't know about cheap, maybe "easy" horsepower, but certainly not cheap.
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Don't bother unless you start modding.
Mine was running rought after all my mods, but I had a new chip custom burned for it and it really opened the power up, plus it idles and runs much smoother now.


but for a stock Corvette... from all the posts I've seen, and reading I've done... it appears that GM engineered their C4's pretty well.
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Originally Posted by vader86
All generic chips are equally worthless.

No chips until significant mods are done which require it.

what he said
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Old May 8, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by N.C. Kid
So for a car realativley stock with say a intake, exaust, and maybe fuel injectors would not help? What about better gas mileage? What do you mean reliabliity?
If you increase the size of the injectors (which is pretty near pointless unless yours are rooted and/or youre planing big mods that will need bigger injectors) You WILL need to retune the ECM or the car will run fatter than the bakers wife. The ECM has to know what size the injectors are in order to know how long to fire them for, that is how it works.
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For the 94 I'm not 100% sure, but I believe you need the programmer, and that is the $300 option. Mine is a 95 and I noticed a 'seat of the pants' difference. It really seems to flatten out the torque curve and I can scratch second gear with it. I've seen a lot of people really bash the programmers and chips and recommend going with a professional dyno tune, which depending on where you live could run $500-$900. I will certainly be going that route soon, but I have enjoyed my programmer for many years now.
If your car is auto, your seat of the pants feel probably came from the changed auto shift points and torque converter lock up points more so than any changes a generic tune from a Programmer will have given you.
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Originally Posted by vader86
All generic chips are equally worthless.

No chips until significant mods are done which require it.
what he said
No chips full stop, thats not how it works on 94 and up. Its reprogramed through the ALDL plug under the dash.
But the first line is 100,000% correct, any chip or reprograming that is not done especially for the car its going in its totally pointless and a total waste of money.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 07:36 AM
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2 forum members used the words"realiabilty" and "generic" which I agree with, but I do think a reputable tuner putting your car on a chassis dyno could yeild some gains. Not sure you would see as big as 22hp @wot gain (as someone told you), for real numbers nothing beats real mods.
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mate yeah, 22hp is a pretty big change, that would have to have been a pretty pitiful sort of a tune on there before it was done properly!!

Its not out of the question to see it if the engine is internally modified and the whole tune is unsuitable, but i doubt youd see much on a stock engine.
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