Comp 280XFI vs 268XFI
#21
pretty good reading material here for those interested. i do not agree 100% with all of his thinking but for the most part I do agree.
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/eb90252.htm
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec...ics/index.html
http://www.stockcarracing.com/techar...ths/index.html
Vizard quote:
"There is much said about LSAs that needs to be thrown out with the garbage. First let me make one major point quite clear. For a given spec of engine there is only one LSA that will give optimum torque and horsepower. It is not, as many cam company techs would have you believe, a variable parameter."
Nothing wrong with the Comp XFI "lobes" it is just the placement of then (LSA/ICL/ECL) that hurts the cams in the catalog.
BTW, the Vizard articla will list LCA as LSA. LSA and LCA are the same thing with a different name. I guess it is an older term since my dad still calls it LCA as well.
I sent the OP a cpl of cams he could get thru Comp that were much better than the shelf stuff. Anyone that sells Comp can get them for him. I do not even sell Comp cams or springs at all. I do use there retainers, locks and locators though.
Lloyd
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/eb90252.htm
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec...ics/index.html
http://www.stockcarracing.com/techar...ths/index.html
Vizard quote:
"There is much said about LSAs that needs to be thrown out with the garbage. First let me make one major point quite clear. For a given spec of engine there is only one LSA that will give optimum torque and horsepower. It is not, as many cam company techs would have you believe, a variable parameter."
Nothing wrong with the Comp XFI "lobes" it is just the placement of then (LSA/ICL/ECL) that hurts the cams in the catalog.
BTW, the Vizard articla will list LCA as LSA. LSA and LCA are the same thing with a different name. I guess it is an older term since my dad still calls it LCA as well.
I sent the OP a cpl of cams he could get thru Comp that were much better than the shelf stuff. Anyone that sells Comp can get them for him. I do not even sell Comp cams or springs at all. I do use there retainers, locks and locators though.
Lloyd
Last edited by NightTrain66; 08-28-2008 at 06:46 PM.
#22
Burning Brakes
Almost three year old thread now ...http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...858&highlight=
The custom cam is an older style comp lobe...low/mid 230s dur, lift around .600, 11x lsa.
The custom cam is an older style comp lobe...low/mid 230s dur, lift around .600, 11x lsa.
you dont always need a aggressive lobe to make power, its more in the head flow and how/when you open the valves during the piston/crank cycle
#23
Melting Slicks
i have the 280xfi in an otherwise stock lt4 with shorty headers, a 52mm tb and 4.10's. i have a pcmforless tune. its quite a smooth cam.. its more mellow then i think it should be. i don't know if something is off from my car/tune or if its just the cam. the best i could get out of it at the track on all seasons was a 12.7@111.9 and best 1/8th was IIRC a 8.1@90. i think i might have been revving it out more than i should have though.
#24
my point was if you want a cam with the same amount of overlap (similar idle, vacuum, etc) you can go down in duration (224/230) an dtighten the LSA to get the overlap where it is equal to the 230/236 113 LSA cam.
You would end up with a smaller cam 'on paper" but one that fills/empties the cylinders better and makes more power EVERYWHERE even though it has less duration.
Lloyd
You would end up with a smaller cam 'on paper" but one that fills/empties the cylinders better and makes more power EVERYWHERE even though it has less duration.
Lloyd
#25
For the amount of effort and expense to change a cam, it makes sense to go with a custom cam. Off the shelf cams are designed to be idiot proof thus compromises are made. IE wide lobe separations due to overcamming etc...
Call up Lloyd or AI and get a cam designed around your goals. It's maybe $100 more than off the shelf...big deal. (not to mention Billet vs cast cam core)
As a side note.. Some have had trouble trying to control those XFI lobes, even when using beehive springs. Spend sometime on CZ28.com
and look for results of that cam, not too many are impressed.
Call up Lloyd or AI and get a cam designed around your goals. It's maybe $100 more than off the shelf...big deal. (not to mention Billet vs cast cam core)
As a side note.. Some have had trouble trying to control those XFI lobes, even when using beehive springs. Spend sometime on CZ28.com
and look for results of that cam, not too many are impressed.
Last edited by TenSecondZ; 08-29-2008 at 12:16 AM.
#26
my point was if you want a cam with the same amount of overlap (similar idle, vacuum, etc) you can go down in duration (224/230) an dtighten the LSA to get the overlap where it is equal to the 230/236 113 LSA cam.
You would end up with a smaller cam 'on paper" but one that fills/empties the cylinders better and makes more power EVERYWHERE even though it has less duration.
Lloyd
You would end up with a smaller cam 'on paper" but one that fills/empties the cylinders better and makes more power EVERYWHERE even though it has less duration.
Lloyd
#27
i have the 280xfi in an otherwise stock lt4 with shorty headers, a 52mm tb and 4.10's. i have a pcmforless tune. its quite a smooth cam.. its more mellow then i think it should be. i don't know if something is off from my car/tune or if its just the cam. the best i could get out of it at the track on all seasons was a 12.7@111.9 and best 1/8th was IIRC a 8.1@90. i think i might have been revving it out more than i should have though.
I'd say somethings off. My stock LT1 with 130,000 miles, headers, 4.10, roller rockers, 52mmTB stock tune, K&N air filter, ran 12.86@110MPH on a 1.96 60FT "lift" shifting
#28
i have the 280xfi in an otherwise stock lt4 with shorty headers, a 52mm tb and 4.10's. i have a pcmforless tune. its quite a smooth cam.. its more mellow then i think it should be. i don't know if something is off from my car/tune or if its just the cam. the best i could get out of it at the track on all seasons was a 12.7@111.9 and best 1/8th was IIRC a 8.1@90. i think i might have been revving it out more than i should have though.